This Time - That Time 3
Viewing comments for Chapter 9 "Holloway Prison"Third book in the time travel trilogy
35 total reviews
Comment from Rachelle Allen
This just gets more and more intriguing with every chapter, Sandra! And I love that poem you found to add into your Author's Notes. Because it's genuine, it adds such understanding to this whole "women voting" revolution! Thank goodness for their bravery and determination! Ditto for your wonderful story that displays it so perfectly! xo
reply by the author on 16-Jun-2019
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This just gets more and more intriguing with every chapter, Sandra! And I love that poem you found to add into your Author's Notes. Because it's genuine, it adds such understanding to this whole "women voting" revolution! Thank goodness for their bravery and determination! Ditto for your wonderful story that displays it so perfectly! xo
Comment Written 16-Jun-2019
reply by the author on 16-Jun-2019
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I'm so pleased I came back for one last look before I went to finish my packing, thank you so much for this great review, Rachelle. While I researched for this part I was stunned at what these women went through in Holloway Prison. I don't know what it was like for the American women, but I should imagine they had just as hard a time. Some men can be so up their own 'nose' (for want of a different word!! lol) Thanks, my friend. xxxx
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VERY true! xo
Comment from tfawcus
Another gripping instalment! You've obviously done your research on prison conditions in those days and this chapter shows just what a traumatic experience they would have been for the suffragettes. However it sounds as though Gladys will be stepping out of the frying pan into the fire.
Just a couple of things:
In your closing paragraph of Chapter 9, you say:
"the departure of rational common sense". I wondered if you needed both 'rational' and 'common sense'? Just a thought.
In this chapter you talk of "All the elder women". I wondered if that should be 'older' - probably either will do, but I've always thought of 'elder' as signifying a family relationship. On the other hand, 'elder' does indicate respect rather than old age, so maybe you're right here. I seem to be talking around in circles, and so I'd better go on to the next chapter!
reply by the author on 24-Oct-2018
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Another gripping instalment! You've obviously done your research on prison conditions in those days and this chapter shows just what a traumatic experience they would have been for the suffragettes. However it sounds as though Gladys will be stepping out of the frying pan into the fire.
Just a couple of things:
In your closing paragraph of Chapter 9, you say:
"the departure of rational common sense". I wondered if you needed both 'rational' and 'common sense'? Just a thought.
In this chapter you talk of "All the elder women". I wondered if that should be 'older' - probably either will do, but I've always thought of 'elder' as signifying a family relationship. On the other hand, 'elder' does indicate respect rather than old age, so maybe you're right here. I seem to be talking around in circles, and so I'd better go on to the next chapter!
Comment Written 24-Oct-2018
reply by the author on 24-Oct-2018
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Thank you so much for this amazing review, Tony. Yes, I'm afraid Gladys is in a bit of trouble.
I've Googled, elder/older and to check it out. It's quite confusing. I've changed that sentence to, older women, now. I think that using elderly works well in a sentence like this: She's now in a home for the elderly... or: The elderly are struggling on their pensions.... not adding women/ men after the word.
I've also taken out the word, 'rational' and left it with just 'common sense'. I should have known that!!
Thank you for the six stars, my friend, that is so kind of you. I do appreciate your help, too. Thank you! :)) Sandra xx
Comment from BeasPeas
This is an excellent chapter to your book, Sandra. Well described and realistic in it's starkness. Anytime there is a societal change it seems to bring out the worse in people. Marilyn
reply by the author on 21-Oct-2018
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This is an excellent chapter to your book, Sandra. Well described and realistic in it's starkness. Anytime there is a societal change it seems to bring out the worse in people. Marilyn
Comment Written 20-Oct-2018
reply by the author on 21-Oct-2018
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Thank you so much, Marilyn. It's quite horrific to research what those women went through for us in order to have the same voting rights as men. Even today, we are still a long way from being equals, even though we are more so! (my opinion, lol) I'm pleased you liked how this part came across. Big hugs, my friend. :)) Sandra xx
Comment from Lady Jane
Veronica and Mildred soon see how the strong personality of Gladys(,) is changed drastically when faced with her raging husband. - comma not needed here :)
What a well written chapter, Sandra. I found just the comma above. Clean, concise righting with perfect dialogue structure and steady flow and pacing. The poor girl...I hope the admiral believes the note...eek! I'd faint and go to the hospital until he calmed down, lol :) Believable and clear ...nothing not to like in this chapter. I hope Mildred's plight turns out better than suspected :) hint, hint!
Janelle
reply by the author on 20-Oct-2018
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Veronica and Mildred soon see how the strong personality of Gladys(,) is changed drastically when faced with her raging husband. - comma not needed here :)
What a well written chapter, Sandra. I found just the comma above. Clean, concise righting with perfect dialogue structure and steady flow and pacing. The poor girl...I hope the admiral believes the note...eek! I'd faint and go to the hospital until he calmed down, lol :) Believable and clear ...nothing not to like in this chapter. I hope Mildred's plight turns out better than suspected :) hint, hint!
Janelle
Comment Written 19-Oct-2018
reply by the author on 20-Oct-2018
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Thank you so much, Janelle, for another of your lovely reviews. Thanks for finding the comma for me, they are my biggest problem area. We will learn a lot more over the next two chapters as to why and for whom they have been sent back in time. :)) Sandra xxx
Comment from wordsfromsue
Oh Sandra, I can't bear to think what will happen to Gladys when her husband gets home. I know it's fiction, but I feel ill.
:-(
Really outstanding job with this chapter.
reply by the author on 19-Oct-2018
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Oh Sandra, I can't bear to think what will happen to Gladys when her husband gets home. I know it's fiction, but I feel ill.
:-(
Really outstanding job with this chapter.
Comment Written 19-Oct-2018
reply by the author on 19-Oct-2018
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Thank you so much for the lovely six stars, my wonderful friend!! I feel so sorry for Gladys, she is such a nice lady. But, she was one of many nice ladies who were married to toe-rags like Charles. They just didn't want women to get out of their control. :( Thank you, dear friend. :)) Sandra xx
Comment from apky
Again you did a fantastic job with this chapter, carrying the reader throughout the story on your magic carpet! I particularly loved the ending:
>Seeing how upset Mildred was at that news, I went over to sit beside her on the metal bed ... and found myself sitting next to her on the sofa at home in 1996....<
Ever looking forward to the next chapter.
reply by the author on 19-Oct-2018
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Again you did a fantastic job with this chapter, carrying the reader throughout the story on your magic carpet! I particularly loved the ending:
>Seeing how upset Mildred was at that news, I went over to sit beside her on the metal bed ... and found myself sitting next to her on the sofa at home in 1996....<
Ever looking forward to the next chapter.
Comment Written 19-Oct-2018
reply by the author on 19-Oct-2018
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Thank you so much, Aki, for another lovely review. They won't be home for long, and they are in for a big surprise next time they travel back in time. I wish I could actually do that. Wouldn't be fun? :)) Thanks my friend. :)) Sandra xxx
Comment from Gloria ....
Oh I can just imagine the pushback the suffragettes were on the receiving end of from family and their communities for bucking the trend. Freedom doesn't come easily and it was hard won.
It's quite possible Charles will be smug at the arrest and feel he has something "different" over Mildred. I can imagine that would be a short-lived reprieve.
Excellent story Sandra, you're moving along a perfect pace.
Gloria
reply by the author on 19-Oct-2018
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Oh I can just imagine the pushback the suffragettes were on the receiving end of from family and their communities for bucking the trend. Freedom doesn't come easily and it was hard won.
It's quite possible Charles will be smug at the arrest and feel he has something "different" over Mildred. I can imagine that would be a short-lived reprieve.
Excellent story Sandra, you're moving along a perfect pace.
Gloria
Comment Written 18-Oct-2018
reply by the author on 19-Oct-2018
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Thank you so much, Gloria for this lovely review. I'm glad you think it's going along at a perfect pace, because I needed this background to be understood before Veronica learns what her mission is. Which, is coming very soon! Thanks for your continued support, my friend. :)) Sandra xx
Comment from Kelly Hanna
Hello!
This was a great piece! A very interesting turn on Women's History. I loved the time traveler idea. It really makes the reader interested to see what it would be like to go back and forth in time. You've got a good premise here. The characters were great too! I feel for both Gladys and Mildred and am interested to see what Veronica will be able to do to help them. A well written chapter with a great set up!
reply by the author on 18-Oct-2018
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Hello!
This was a great piece! A very interesting turn on Women's History. I loved the time traveler idea. It really makes the reader interested to see what it would be like to go back and forth in time. You've got a good premise here. The characters were great too! I feel for both Gladys and Mildred and am interested to see what Veronica will be able to do to help them. A well written chapter with a great set up!
Comment Written 18-Oct-2018
reply by the author on 18-Oct-2018
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Thank you so much, Kelly, for reading this part and for the lovely comments. This is the final book in the trilogy, it's been quite a ride. It's lovely that you enjoyed this part, thank you! :)) Sandra xx
Comment from GinnieD
Those women must have lost their common sense to charge the police like they did. Smart thinking to jump into the back of a van undetected. The notion of going to prison would become a harsh reality for these women. Seems "Gladys" caught a break being released from prison even if "Charles" does know she got arrested. That left "Mildred' to face the consequences of her actions. Then, at the end, you moved her from a gripping scene to her home in 1996? That seemed to change the texture of the story somewhat.
reply by the author on 18-Oct-2018
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Those women must have lost their common sense to charge the police like they did. Smart thinking to jump into the back of a van undetected. The notion of going to prison would become a harsh reality for these women. Seems "Gladys" caught a break being released from prison even if "Charles" does know she got arrested. That left "Mildred' to face the consequences of her actions. Then, at the end, you moved her from a gripping scene to her home in 1996? That seemed to change the texture of the story somewhat.
Comment Written 18-Oct-2018
reply by the author on 18-Oct-2018
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Hi Ginnie, thank you for reading and reviewing this part. I can understand your thinking of the end of this piece, but you need to have read this from the beginning. Gladys is not happy at all to be released in Charles's care, he is her abusive husband, she would have been safer in prison. Lots happening in this story, and Veronica and Mildred will be back to sort things out. Thanks again! :) Sandra xx
Comment from barkingdog
Your description of Holloway prison made me shiver. So dark and dank and no comforts at all. Grim ... just as the poem says.
Spiriting back to the present was an excellent way to escape prison. haha
Now, to find out what Charles is going to do with Gladys.
I didn't see any thing to correct or suggest. It reads perfectly.
:) e
reply by the author on 18-Oct-2018
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Your description of Holloway prison made me shiver. So dark and dank and no comforts at all. Grim ... just as the poem says.
Spiriting back to the present was an excellent way to escape prison. haha
Now, to find out what Charles is going to do with Gladys.
I didn't see any thing to correct or suggest. It reads perfectly.
:) e
Comment Written 18-Oct-2018
reply by the author on 18-Oct-2018
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The research gave me loads to work with, but I wanted to keep it as unpolitical as possible. But, Ellen, I was so surprised at what those women went through in prison, even though some from wealthy families could have been saved from the harshness, they chose not to.
Now Mildred and Veronica are back in their own time, but, it won't be for long. :)) They will find out what happened to Gladys on their return to the past.Thank you so much, my friend, for the lovely review! Big hugs, Sandra xx
