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Comment from Dorothy Farrell
Hi reconciled - well written in good free verse. Good emphasis on the word 'Christian'. Line 2 stanza - now on's should be 'now-ons'. Line 2 stanza 3 - John(')s baptism, add apostrophe. Powerful meaning behind this verse, well displayed. Good read. Warm regards Dorothy
reply by the author on 24-Feb-2016
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Hi reconciled - well written in good free verse. Good emphasis on the word 'Christian'. Line 2 stanza - now on's should be 'now-ons'. Line 2 stanza 3 - John(')s baptism, add apostrophe. Powerful meaning behind this verse, well displayed. Good read. Warm regards Dorothy
Comment Written 24-Feb-2016
reply by the author on 24-Feb-2016
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thank you Dorothy...-smile-...i was wondering about that...i'll go fix it. love michael
Comment from Wabigoon
Michael--
As is usually the case with your work I like a lot of it.
Like this:
accept any yoke...
chokes every Johns baptism
inside of times attrition a body breaks
Jeremiah's constant crying
Jonas suicide attempt
Moses's last mistake...
But as with the other poems of yours I have read I cannot pretend to get what you are saying. I am assuming that is you tearing off your clothes there on stage as if they were the proverbial poison shirt. Looks like a slightly older, more "mature" you. Is that the "yoke" of being a Christian, the stigma? Or maybe the attempt to tear that shirt off to become whatever the original thing was? "Christian" is a wardrobe of cliches that needs to be shed to get at the truth?
I'm not going to go any further than this in attempting to "get" your message. Don't think it's possible. But it's evocatively put.
In the two stanzas I quote here seems to me there are places like "Johns baptism" that call for an apostrophe. You don't use one, which is fine, but then do use them further along. Again, makes it hard to get your drift.
Thanks
Wabigoon/Jeff
reply by the author on 24-Feb-2016
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Michael--
As is usually the case with your work I like a lot of it.
Like this:
accept any yoke...
chokes every Johns baptism
inside of times attrition a body breaks
Jeremiah's constant crying
Jonas suicide attempt
Moses's last mistake...
But as with the other poems of yours I have read I cannot pretend to get what you are saying. I am assuming that is you tearing off your clothes there on stage as if they were the proverbial poison shirt. Looks like a slightly older, more "mature" you. Is that the "yoke" of being a Christian, the stigma? Or maybe the attempt to tear that shirt off to become whatever the original thing was? "Christian" is a wardrobe of cliches that needs to be shed to get at the truth?
I'm not going to go any further than this in attempting to "get" your message. Don't think it's possible. But it's evocatively put.
In the two stanzas I quote here seems to me there are places like "Johns baptism" that call for an apostrophe. You don't use one, which is fine, but then do use them further along. Again, makes it hard to get your drift.
Thanks
Wabigoon/Jeff
Comment Written 24-Feb-2016
reply by the author on 24-Feb-2016
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hm....
when I...well I've always "known" God was there...everywhere.
I know that sounds ah impossible to some...but I swear I have.
when I came to Texas...and God...-headshake-...for some reason...I hope to talk to Him about face to Face someday...and receive satisfying explanation....brought me to a "church"...if I told you the truth of how...you would know it was God....certainly not me. anyway...I would hear from time to time...folk...give testimony of how at or on this certain date and time...they were saved.....and life was peaches and cream ever since.......and I swear to God....I felt like an orphan.
I mean...I want that...ya know...heaven....-headtilt-.....ahahaha....ah but you see after years of trying...faking...and finally an angel woke me up sitting at the foot of my bed and comfortingly said...Michael, stop worrying...them folk are full of shit....more or less...-smile-...being Christian...is an every day war...make no mistake...and sometimes you lose. Moses lost it....all of them lost it...I guarantee you. but...they got up and loved again. Let me tell you something rocky got nothing on no Christian. love Michael
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Michael--
There are ways to explain encounters from "God" or meaning in one's life that, frankly, you are responsible for. Meaning, perhaps, they come from your future, now, when you are taking a certain position, hence seeding your past with an encounter with God, or meaning. There is immense meaning in what we write that goes way deeper than Fan Story or the simple surface of the mind. At least that's my reading.
Mostly, I see you wrestling, maybe in this case with a poison shirt, an identification you're not sure you're comfortable with, at least not comfortable with the way a whole lot of people wear it.
Your poems resemble the statue of Laocoon? Do you know it? The Trojan priest, don't remember what god, who, I think, predicts the Trojans will lose? Not sure, Have to do a bit of checking, and is attacked by snakes, like pythons, pythias from Poseidon, along with his sons. There is a torment in your poems, clearer in this one, and in the video, that's like that statue. As if you were contending with some...major prophecy maybe. Wrestling. Hard. Great combative energy in your poems.
I ain't afraid of "meaning" or miracles or "god" or any of the rest of it. Mostly I think it's projection. From a human center we all deny because too beautiful.
Good luck.
Wabigoon/Jeff
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Do you know I could write about anything-
if someone were to ask saying I need a story or poem about...
I could do it-
but i'd have to put myself there, then explain what surrounds me....but nobody hardly ever asks...-smile-...so usually i come to my alter of offering empty....have grown into finding musical stimuli...a video of sound that emits emotion....and I go there....or more accurately I find that part of me that experienced this place before and make it meet up with the music through the merging of me. I enjoy it...it something that pleases me when I feel I've accomplished just that.........so yes, everything I write has me all over it....and probably where I am, as well as were I've been. Yes I have dragons that need to be slayed, which can make knowing Him an anchored chain. you too Buddy- take care-
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Michael--
Okay, I am asking for a 2,000 word story about Texas, what happened there. You can write it how you like. My only...stipulation is that you look at the statue of Laocoon first and fit the wrestling in it into the story somehow. When you have finished the story notify me and, if possible, I will help you promote it.
Jeff
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lol....-headshake-...never gonna happen...
without motivation, I got bills and stuff...ahhaha.......besides dark comedy is always much more funnier when its not you everyone's laughing at....I learned that very early on in my sojourn on planet Hollywood ....-smile- ...ah who knows maybe i'll give the texas chainsaw massacre a run for Olympic gold one these days- love-
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Michael--
Thanks. Made the offer. You do what you want. Texas chainsaw Massacre's how it was?
"Accept any joke."
Thanks
Wabigoon/Jeff
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this yoke was placed around neck while sleeping in trust....there was no offer.
never is from thieves and murderers...-smile-
Appreciate the interest Jeff....but some stories aren't finished yet. love-
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Michael--
If you are saying...." " can place a yoke around your neck while asleep that will turn you into a thief or murderer I "grok" that. If you are, for instance, saying that's why and how "Christ" identifies with his crucifixion mates -- they too are "god's" sons, Frankenstein's monsters, I grok that as well. Do I disagree with the right of anyone to do this to us? Absolutely. It is evil beyond evil. You know where that place is? Are there ways of understanding it, stopping it, finishing it? The same. Should it be stopped? Absolutely.
Jeff
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no i'm not saying that....I'm saying. Joseph did nothing wrong by being loved more by his Father. the jealousy and covetousness of his brothers was their sin...yet he was yoked by their hatred for him. He did nothing to deserve it.
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Michael--
Thanks for the clarity. Yet, look what happens when Joseph, dreaming is tossed in the pit.
And who, exactly, in modern terms are these brethren, who toss dreaming in the pit, The Pit?
Then they sell it, Joseph into slavery in Egypt. Fantastic! To be "yoked." They sell dreaming, an entire portion of the human psyche into slavery to Pharaoh, Donald Trump's system. And, so Joseph remains there...until he agrees to...relinquish all dreaming and all interpretations of dreaming to..."God!" Fantastic.
And we wonder how that pathetic excuse for a male, Mary's Joseph, loses it all so "God" gets to do it!
Fantastic!
What a racket.
And...everybody buys it. Everybody loves it. Nobody wants to fight to get it back.
Jeff
Comment from Carolyn 'Deaton' Stephens
Dear Michael,
You are posting few and far between, but as usual, with a memorable quality that is untouchable. I appreciated the poem, yes, the very word Christian, gives a sweet taste to the sound of it. Joyful, sad, triumphant, victorious, sacrificial, unworthy, glorious, kinship.. you name it.
Wonderfully composed,
Thank you for sharing,
Carolyn
reply by the author on 24-Feb-2016
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Dear Michael,
You are posting few and far between, but as usual, with a memorable quality that is untouchable. I appreciated the poem, yes, the very word Christian, gives a sweet taste to the sound of it. Joyful, sad, triumphant, victorious, sacrificial, unworthy, glorious, kinship.. you name it.
Wonderfully composed,
Thank you for sharing,
Carolyn
Comment Written 24-Feb-2016
reply by the author on 24-Feb-2016
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Thank you Carolyn...-smile-
ah I dont know I've posted sixteen so far
I figured I pass up Cat a week ago ..-shouldershrug-
I pulled out the turtle and the hare yesterday, flipped through the pages, looking for something i might have missed...will see, maybe next weeks just around the corner...haha. well thanks again...i appreciate you. love michael
Comment from rjuselius
This is an interesting take on faith, belief and Christ himself. He went through hell, came back and forth again.
So when?
Thank you for sharing dear Michael!
Blessings!
Rebekka x
reply by the author on 24-Feb-2016
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This is an interesting take on faith, belief and Christ himself. He went through hell, came back and forth again.
So when?
Thank you for sharing dear Michael!
Blessings!
Rebekka x
Comment Written 24-Feb-2016
reply by the author on 24-Feb-2016
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so when...? so and I....and you won't have to. -smile-
thank you Bekka....love Michael
Comment from DonandVicki
A powerful and exciting poem that inspires the imagination. The words convey your emotions very well. Nice art work to enhance your words.
reply by the author on 24-Feb-2016
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A powerful and exciting poem that inspires the imagination. The words convey your emotions very well. Nice art work to enhance your words.
Comment Written 23-Feb-2016
reply by the author on 24-Feb-2016
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Hi...-smile- thanks a lot....appreciate the time....love Michael
Comment from Neonewman
We do what we need to, to be free! Powerful statement in this beautiful song you have offered us. Well crafted piece of poetry you have delivered once again my friend. Deep, insightful and certainly relatable.
God bless!
Steve
reply by the author on 23-Feb-2016
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We do what we need to, to be free! Powerful statement in this beautiful song you have offered us. Well crafted piece of poetry you have delivered once again my friend. Deep, insightful and certainly relatable.
God bless!
Steve
Comment Written 23-Feb-2016
reply by the author on 23-Feb-2016
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Hey Steve...-smile-....yea love that song...the beauty mixed with the foulest of langue ...the contradiction almost human...-smile- appreciate you man....love Michael
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My pleasure Michael!
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My pleasure Michael!
Comment from Joan E.
I am not knowledgeable about Bible references, but they certainly added to the spiritualism of your poem. Your "accept any yoke" is compelling and I like the rhymed effect with "chokes". Of course, your animated art established the mood perfectly. Cheers- Joan
reply by the author on 23-Feb-2016
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I am not knowledgeable about Bible references, but they certainly added to the spiritualism of your poem. Your "accept any yoke" is compelling and I like the rhymed effect with "chokes". Of course, your animated art established the mood perfectly. Cheers- Joan
Comment Written 23-Feb-2016
reply by the author on 23-Feb-2016
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hey J...-smile-
no...? well okay I'll explain
its been a while but I'll give you the gist of it. Jeremiah ...is known as the weeping Preacher.
God wanted him to go on into a City of wayward folk , who ah were not real fond of nosy Jews, and he pretty much thought them disgusting earth inhabitants...so there was oh I dont remember two or three day stalemate, tug -a -war type thing...were Jerry pleaded his case to the Lord in woeful supplication, without realease ...until he finally just pleaded to die...he said...something like...i'm just going sit here on the desert sand until I die of misery...amd he meant it. -headnod-..I dont remember what it was but God had something grow to cover the poor bugger in shade...and he was thankful enough to continue crying his complaint and get hungrier...and sit there in the sand in God shade....but then God took the shade away...and intensive heat was added into his new environment ...and was way way more unhappy....so much so he decided to go...I mean what the hell...they're bound to kill him quick....and so he proceeded forward with a rather nasty attitude....and told the king God wanted him change a few things...somehow it worked out for him....some say God was with him...he sure must have had something going for him. ...-smile-...Next week its Moses...-wink- love Michael
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Thanks for the condensed version of Jeremiah's ordeal. I like the idea of weekly lessons, with Moses being next. You're a good teacher--you don't overload your student! Smiles- Joan
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well they dont call me Rabbi for nothing...ahhaha
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Good morning, Rabbi! Hope your day is filled with more biblical lessons to share- Joan
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O dont worry ...I'm Jonah reincarnated...-smile-
Comment from c_lucas
Simply calling yourself a Christian is not enough. Your daily acts will do more in describing your beliefs. This is very well written with a smooth flow of words, making for a good read.
reply by the author on 23-Feb-2016
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Simply calling yourself a Christian is not enough. Your daily acts will do more in describing your beliefs. This is very well written with a smooth flow of words, making for a good read.
Comment Written 23-Feb-2016
reply by the author on 23-Feb-2016
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well i'll take your word for it charlie....you would know correct...? Calling yourself christian calls for supernatural strength if in fact you are an "honest" Christian....you will fail as much as you succeed. a "real" Christian told me that. ...-smile-...love Michael
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Hi Michael. I'm into my seventh decade and come from the Bible Belt in the Southern states. Most people I have met do not qualify.
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none do...thats the point. none of us can be Jesus....we try....and then try....then try....and then try again...ect end of skin.
Comment from Sandra Stoner-Mitchell
Jeremiah, John, Moses. All followed God with total love, gave their all, yet even they couldn't get it so right we have to see them as human and not quite saints. And thank God for that, because if they didn't make mistakes, we could never believe it possible to be loved and forgiven by God. This is really a wonderful poem, my dear Michael, you have excelled as usual. Love always. Sandy. xxx
reply by the author on 23-Feb-2016
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Jeremiah, John, Moses. All followed God with total love, gave their all, yet even they couldn't get it so right we have to see them as human and not quite saints. And thank God for that, because if they didn't make mistakes, we could never believe it possible to be loved and forgiven by God. This is really a wonderful poem, my dear Michael, you have excelled as usual. Love always. Sandy. xxx
Comment Written 23-Feb-2016
reply by the author on 23-Feb-2016
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Hi Sandy...-smile-...yes maam....its not failing Sandy...we all will....we have to. When you know someone loves God you'll see him love Him even when he looks and feels unloved. Most of the treasure in heaven costs a lot here...that's why its priceless-smile- hope you're well Dear...love you Michael
Comment from l.raven
HI Michael, a beautiful word spoken....Christian...a word shouting...I want to love...not hate...someone who deeply believes in God...Jesus...always believing deep within....honored to serve an amazing love given unconditionally...Jesus who suffered...so I could see...Jesus who died ...so I would know Grace...Christian...tongue taste delight sound...truly is baby...you said it perfectly...one of the things I love about you Michael...is your true belief in the Bible...your belief in God...Jesus...your words strong...and so very true...love you so....Linda xxoo
reply by the author on 24-Feb-2016
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HI Michael, a beautiful word spoken....Christian...a word shouting...I want to love...not hate...someone who deeply believes in God...Jesus...always believing deep within....honored to serve an amazing love given unconditionally...Jesus who suffered...so I could see...Jesus who died ...so I would know Grace...Christian...tongue taste delight sound...truly is baby...you said it perfectly...one of the things I love about you Michael...is your true belief in the Bible...your belief in God...Jesus...your words strong...and so very true...love you so....Linda xxoo
Comment Written 23-Feb-2016
reply by the author on 24-Feb-2016
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Hi...-smile-
Christian...it is beautiful the taste of the sound.
it sounds different depending on who's saying to who...
I mean I hear it tossed around in the dirt a lot.
but can you image going to sleep to wake up to Jesus and His sincere voice saying welcome home Christian...-smile-
the definition is to be like Jesus...the second most beautiful name in the world out shined only by its divine design.
love you Michael
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Hi smile...I would love to wake up to Jesus welcoming me home for eternity...I try to stay as close as I can to Him...and God...try to be a good Christian...love you Linda
