Poor Prose Writers, You Still Here?
A Rambling Essay or Something Like That100 total reviews
Comment from Deniz22
Do any of you have an idea that might make reading prose and reviewing it more attractive to readers and reviewers here?
How much money do you have? :) Just kidding...seriously, I think there is no solution to this problem with the possible exception of limiting yourself to 3-4 paragraphs at a time.
I gave up on anything lengthy long ago on FS, whether I was writing or reading. The pay back is just too little to use one's limited (presumably)time in reading lengthy stuff.
Sorry! :)
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Do any of you have an idea that might make reading prose and reviewing it more attractive to readers and reviewers here?
How much money do you have? :) Just kidding...seriously, I think there is no solution to this problem with the possible exception of limiting yourself to 3-4 paragraphs at a time.
I gave up on anything lengthy long ago on FS, whether I was writing or reading. The pay back is just too little to use one's limited (presumably)time in reading lengthy stuff.
Sorry! :)
Comment Written 25-Jul-2014
Comment from country ranch writer
Separate the themes by days, poems, one day, novels, then prose, or use the other days for drama,fiction, non fiction, mystery and supernatural stuff.
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Separate the themes by days, poems, one day, novels, then prose, or use the other days for drama,fiction, non fiction, mystery and supernatural stuff.
Comment Written 25-Jul-2014
Comment from Ric Myworld
You bring up a perfectly valid point that really should be addressed sooner than later. I too read and enjoy many different prose writer's work. However, I still read lots of poetry in spite of the fact that I've never written the first piece and understand nothing about it's styles and structures. Why not, I might learn enough to someday be interested in writing some, and at any rate, I still accumulate money to promote my own prose. Thanks for the nice read, and I hope your post jogs the brains of those smarter than me who can offer some answers. Great job. :-)
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You bring up a perfectly valid point that really should be addressed sooner than later. I too read and enjoy many different prose writer's work. However, I still read lots of poetry in spite of the fact that I've never written the first piece and understand nothing about it's styles and structures. Why not, I might learn enough to someday be interested in writing some, and at any rate, I still accumulate money to promote my own prose. Thanks for the nice read, and I hope your post jogs the brains of those smarter than me who can offer some answers. Great job. :-)
Comment Written 25-Jul-2014
Comment from mermaids
I agree with your point and I am guilty of reading more poems than prose due mainly to lack of time. The only thing I can think of is maybe prose should have more points than poems. If a writer reads prose and reviews the story, maybe the author should be required to read a piece of writing from the reviewer. Just some suggestions.
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I agree with your point and I am guilty of reading more poems than prose due mainly to lack of time. The only thing I can think of is maybe prose should have more points than poems. If a writer reads prose and reviews the story, maybe the author should be required to read a piece of writing from the reviewer. Just some suggestions.
Comment Written 25-Jul-2014
Comment from jadapenn
Hi Michael, I read this article from beginning to the end. I think it's high time the Fanstory committee decided to split prose and poetry. My thoughts are that if you earn money on reviewing poetry then you should only be able to use that money to post another poem. Money earned on prose should be increased and only utilised for prose works. I don't know if this is a good solution. Prose is just not getting the exposure it should be getting. What do you think. luv jada
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Hi Michael, I read this article from beginning to the end. I think it's high time the Fanstory committee decided to split prose and poetry. My thoughts are that if you earn money on reviewing poetry then you should only be able to use that money to post another poem. Money earned on prose should be increased and only utilised for prose works. I don't know if this is a good solution. Prose is just not getting the exposure it should be getting. What do you think. luv jada
Comment Written 25-Jul-2014
Comment from Green Lake Girl
You've detailed an inherent problem with the FanStory structure, Mikey. Although the "system" isn't perfect, I can't come up with a better one. I only write prose; so my expectations are in line with that fact. If I receive 25 + reviews on any of my chapters, I am pleased. I realize poets receive more reviews, but that's okay. Money is a motivator, but that's also what makes the system tick. Without it, we'd have a lot less readership. That's my two cents worth! :D
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You've detailed an inherent problem with the FanStory structure, Mikey. Although the "system" isn't perfect, I can't come up with a better one. I only write prose; so my expectations are in line with that fact. If I receive 25 + reviews on any of my chapters, I am pleased. I realize poets receive more reviews, but that's okay. Money is a motivator, but that's also what makes the system tick. Without it, we'd have a lot less readership. That's my two cents worth! :D
Comment Written 25-Jul-2014
Comment from AAud
You are right on the "money" - fake and otherwise - regarding the reviewing process. Even though it's time consuming, I do my best to give helpful reviews, but first, I'd like to tell you, "your haiku was in perfect syllable count. I loved the imagery. It was very moving in a moving way as it moved me." LOL - sorry, couldn't resist. But that's a great line!!
Your piece makes valid points about the money system and the quality of some (thought not all) reviews. Plus you did it with a little bit of "tongue-in-cheek" that made me chuckle ... because it's true!
I didn't find any problems with the middle of your "ramble" - it rang true the whole way through. Plus, you got 110 people to read this.
Although, when reviewing poems, I have to say, it's not so much a piece of cake as a portion of raspberry tart. :-)
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You are right on the "money" - fake and otherwise - regarding the reviewing process. Even though it's time consuming, I do my best to give helpful reviews, but first, I'd like to tell you, "your haiku was in perfect syllable count. I loved the imagery. It was very moving in a moving way as it moved me." LOL - sorry, couldn't resist. But that's a great line!!
Your piece makes valid points about the money system and the quality of some (thought not all) reviews. Plus you did it with a little bit of "tongue-in-cheek" that made me chuckle ... because it's true!
I didn't find any problems with the middle of your "ramble" - it rang true the whole way through. Plus, you got 110 people to read this.
Although, when reviewing poems, I have to say, it's not so much a piece of cake as a portion of raspberry tart. :-)
Comment Written 25-Jul-2014
Comment from gypsycaravan
Herein lies the problem. I left Fan Story quite a while back for this same reason. I am a prose writer (mostly short stories or essays) and felt the gross inequity of obtaining reviews more than I wanted to deal with at the time. I'm back now with a different attitude. I will continue to read and write what I ENJOY for the pure pleasure and not the member dollar rewards. I can learn and improve my own skills from reading other writer's works. Occasionally, a review pops up that is well thought out and helpful making my presence here worthwhile.
Your essay or rant, as you call it, is appropriate and right on the money. It is also well-written if though I don't understand the "fuchsia" and "Julia" references. I like that you ended the piece with a question and asking for follow-up. This begs for a follow-up piece from you with the suggestions you received. I might offer that Fan Story should revamp and offer rewards based on the length of the writing, which would encourage more help for ALL the writings, not just the poetry reviews. I would also like them to offer more for reviews of all contest entries to encourage reading and voting on these.
Thanks for writing this--it gave me thought. AGAIN.
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Herein lies the problem. I left Fan Story quite a while back for this same reason. I am a prose writer (mostly short stories or essays) and felt the gross inequity of obtaining reviews more than I wanted to deal with at the time. I'm back now with a different attitude. I will continue to read and write what I ENJOY for the pure pleasure and not the member dollar rewards. I can learn and improve my own skills from reading other writer's works. Occasionally, a review pops up that is well thought out and helpful making my presence here worthwhile.
Your essay or rant, as you call it, is appropriate and right on the money. It is also well-written if though I don't understand the "fuchsia" and "Julia" references. I like that you ended the piece with a question and asking for follow-up. This begs for a follow-up piece from you with the suggestions you received. I might offer that Fan Story should revamp and offer rewards based on the length of the writing, which would encourage more help for ALL the writings, not just the poetry reviews. I would also like them to offer more for reviews of all contest entries to encourage reading and voting on these.
Thanks for writing this--it gave me thought. AGAIN.
Comment Written 25-Jul-2014
Comment from ProjectBluebook
YOU SUMMED IT UP--IN A NUTSHELL. MAYBE, SWITCHING TO SHORT STORIES IS IN ORDER FOR ME? EIGLE RULL GAVE ME THIS ADVICE AGES AGO. BUT I DID NOT HEED HIS EXPERT ADVICE. HE TRIED NOVELS BEFORE, REVIEWS ARE SPARSE AND FAR BETWEEN. SIMPLY TAKES TOO MUCH TIME TO READ A LONG NOVEL. NEVERTHELESS, READ A STORY POEM. YOU ARE OBSERVANT AND MAHE GOOD POINTS, SIR MIKEY. I'M JUST A SPECTATOR PLAYING THE GAME. EVEN A BUCK CAN HARDLY ATTRACT MANY NEW READERS. WELL, ONCE, I INCLUDING A PUZZLE IN MY PROSE. DO YOU REMEMBER MIKEY? YES, YOU WERE THE FIRST TO SOLVE THE RIDDLE INSIDE MY PROSE. SEEMINGLY, I DID GET MORE REVIEWS. LOL! MONEY IS--AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE MOTIVATOR ON EARTH. LUCIFER'S SILVER BULLET, GREED AND LUST. MAYBE, I WILL GO BACK TO MY RIDDLES? AND REWARDS SYSTEM. ONE THEY CATCH ON TO IT--THE WORD WILL SPREAD LIKE A VIRUS. READ HIS! SOLVE IT FIRST AND YOU GET A GIFT, TEN MEMBER DOLLARS, A SURE MOTIVE. THAT'S MY THEORY. IT TAKES A HELLUVA LOT OF TIME CREating long chapters and editing. you must have good grammar skills and teach yourself, learning from mistakes. it's a bitch!
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YOU SUMMED IT UP--IN A NUTSHELL. MAYBE, SWITCHING TO SHORT STORIES IS IN ORDER FOR ME? EIGLE RULL GAVE ME THIS ADVICE AGES AGO. BUT I DID NOT HEED HIS EXPERT ADVICE. HE TRIED NOVELS BEFORE, REVIEWS ARE SPARSE AND FAR BETWEEN. SIMPLY TAKES TOO MUCH TIME TO READ A LONG NOVEL. NEVERTHELESS, READ A STORY POEM. YOU ARE OBSERVANT AND MAHE GOOD POINTS, SIR MIKEY. I'M JUST A SPECTATOR PLAYING THE GAME. EVEN A BUCK CAN HARDLY ATTRACT MANY NEW READERS. WELL, ONCE, I INCLUDING A PUZZLE IN MY PROSE. DO YOU REMEMBER MIKEY? YES, YOU WERE THE FIRST TO SOLVE THE RIDDLE INSIDE MY PROSE. SEEMINGLY, I DID GET MORE REVIEWS. LOL! MONEY IS--AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE MOTIVATOR ON EARTH. LUCIFER'S SILVER BULLET, GREED AND LUST. MAYBE, I WILL GO BACK TO MY RIDDLES? AND REWARDS SYSTEM. ONE THEY CATCH ON TO IT--THE WORD WILL SPREAD LIKE A VIRUS. READ HIS! SOLVE IT FIRST AND YOU GET A GIFT, TEN MEMBER DOLLARS, A SURE MOTIVE. THAT'S MY THEORY. IT TAKES A HELLUVA LOT OF TIME CREating long chapters and editing. you must have good grammar skills and teach yourself, learning from mistakes. it's a bitch!
Comment Written 25-Jul-2014
Comment from dennis0530
Ha! you pinned some "reviewers" there with your "fake review" tag. There are the one-liners and the "copy/paste" reviewers who want to earn the easy buck, and there are plenty around. Wouldn't it be good if the writer hands out the "payment?" Those one-liners and copy/pasters should be ashamed of themselves.
So, my suggestion is: Let the author award extra points and bonus member dollars to what he thinks are outstanding reviews. Minimum amounts should be posted, maximum no limits. This way, we could do away with fake reviews.
I would like to add "VOID" reviews that you don't like. But on second thought concluded this self-defeating; we like to attract as much reviews as possible.
In reviewing, points of interest are a consideration for me. I've read and skipped short ones that pay good but seemed to me senseless and felt like a drag. I've read and reviewed lengthy ones that seemed not to end even with 3 or 4 scrolls down. But these really caught my attention and found them relevant, witty, and thought-provoking.
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Ha! you pinned some "reviewers" there with your "fake review" tag. There are the one-liners and the "copy/paste" reviewers who want to earn the easy buck, and there are plenty around. Wouldn't it be good if the writer hands out the "payment?" Those one-liners and copy/pasters should be ashamed of themselves.
So, my suggestion is: Let the author award extra points and bonus member dollars to what he thinks are outstanding reviews. Minimum amounts should be posted, maximum no limits. This way, we could do away with fake reviews.
I would like to add "VOID" reviews that you don't like. But on second thought concluded this self-defeating; we like to attract as much reviews as possible.
In reviewing, points of interest are a consideration for me. I've read and skipped short ones that pay good but seemed to me senseless and felt like a drag. I've read and reviewed lengthy ones that seemed not to end even with 3 or 4 scrolls down. But these really caught my attention and found them relevant, witty, and thought-provoking.
Comment Written 25-Jul-2014
