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RE: Tear down those pyramids.
Reply on September 12, 2017 09:58 AM

Hey G,
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Hear! Hear! Emma. I have asked DJ many times about Jones's slanderous and factually incorrect theories, and even after proof is presented, straight from the horse's mouth as it were, the subject has been conveniently abandoned

I sincerely don't know exactly which "incorrect theories" you refer to here. Maybe clarify which "subject is abandoned" . I know, perhaps sometimes you don't like my answers and might think of them as somehow dodging, but I really don't dodge.


You can make up whatever god that you choose to believe in G. As for me, I believe there is a manual to follow.

An intersting statement G:

"...who mix show business, hucksterism, and conspiracy theories". How surprising to see criminally convicted televangelist Jim Bakker back in full swing, again frightening his flock with outlandish claims that Americans are descending into cannibalism and that Trump opponents have triggered the apocalypse.. Bakker makes Alex Jones look like a regular piker.

Just because somebody, like a conspirator labels something that points to them, "a conspiracy theory", doesn't make it a not true theory of somebody or something conspiring. My manual, and even history gives us many examples of this Gloria. Now here's the rub. I believe that there are conspiracies in the world, and you don't believe in them Although, you really do believe in them and share many of your own all of the time. Only, your conspiracy theories are diametrically opposed to my conspiracy theories. I believe that there is a manual that gives great advice in this arena, and you seem to use as your manual, a "manual" about conspiracy theories Machiavelli's "the Prince" . I say that my manual is superior to yours.... And that's the rest of the story. Lol.


I am only peripherally aware of Bakker's work ( who , it seems got railroaded for running a timeshare scam....Whereas, to this day timeshare scams run rampant here in America...Perhaps he was running that business too cleanly? and the powers of the world saw a great opportunity to "kill two birds,", and demonize a popular Christian, AND horn in on a lucrative business model that they didn't need or want to compete with. Not saying that I know this exactly, just conjecture on another conspiracy theory. If you are aware of my theories on Luciferianism, zombie's and trans-humanism you are probably aware that your "cannibalism" aspersions towards Bakker, just shot his credibility up more in my eyes.

The part of me that might think that we are not yet so close to the Bible's Revelation times, would tend to think that we are as humanity, right now entering a period that could be called a "new enlightenment" a period where humanity is finally admitting to themselves that "will you look at that?, There really are these things called conspiracies!". A world where we woke up to the idea that scientific enlightenment was perverted , bought off and declared that our scientific ignorance should be exploited, subverted or subjugated to their perverted scientific "expertise". We are in a period where a moral enlightenment finally caught up with and interacts with a reasoned enlightenment. Where we are collectively effectively using BOTH sides of our brains. All at a time when the powers that be are racing to get humanity to only use what is known as "the reptilian"part of our brains. ( All in an effort to turn humanity into that Luciferian "new creature", the zombie, which is not really at all what lieing Hollywood portrays and tells us that a zombie is. Shocking , I know) .
We are finally at a place where the old trick of demonizing people who would mention something as a conspiracy are just swept under the carpet and demonized as a "conspiracy theorist" doesn't really work anymore for the conspirators. Now, we are at a place where we can at least try to sort through many of these conspiracies and try to figure out which ones are real and which ones maybe aren't
A scary time indeed, but a step in the right direction. Though, maybe it is TOO late to avoid the Biblical "next step." Especially in light of the things that the insane conspirators are doing to our earth and our ecosystems through geo engineering in the name of "saving"it. But that's a whole other thread.
But go ahead and call me a lunatic.
In the land of lies,
the man who points to the truth
is the lunatic.
Maybe that could be the creed for the new enlightenment.


Emma, it seems much of what you say about Libertarians sounds alot like what Americans call "neo- Cons" . So I'm not sure I would agree with everything you put forth in this regard.
But more interestingly, you say:

"I don't ask for the 'freedom' that comes with little, or no, government, because, for the majority, that wouldn't be freedom. The laws we have, though it sounds contradictory, gives the majority freedom from tyranny and oppression by an unchecked minority of assholes who rise to the top in lawless societies. "

I will add that, maybe the God of the Bible knew that human nature was such that every trial run, or experiment to achieve utopia without Him, would always be a dismal failure. History certainly seems to gloriously tell us this.

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"See what I mean? I don't want something I can't see, some force I cannot argue with, reason with, or stand outside the doors and protest against, making the decisions. Ask yourself this question: Would you really, in your heart of hearts, want a fundamentalist Christian leader, who told you he'd seen god in the Oval office, and god had commanded him to make such and such a law? You've only got his or her word for it. "

I believe that a time is coming eventually when God will rule everything plainly and openly. The only problem is right now that many of his beloved creation still doesn't want , or even see the value in that kind of reality. That's the kind of "fundamentalist Christian" leader that I submit that we will all see. Just when , exactly? I can only guess, but the manual most decisively tells us it is coming.


You say,

No, I'm not a libertarian, but I'm buggered if I'm going to give up my democratic rights and live in a total, unquestioned theocracy, no matter how benevolent the god is. Not least because the god is only as benevolent as the man believing in it. Would you like/want your country to presided over by someone claiming to be acting for a god you didn't believe in?

I become more convinced everyday that the Christian's role in building the kingdom of God here on earth is actually the manual's instruction to us: to work towards and explanation towards enticing every soul to want to partake in the same kind of "fair Utopia" that the end of the Bible speaks of and that everyone, every soul, even yours Emma , desires. This "NEW Creation, " that Jesus brought about. But non believers , they are still just buggered by misconceptions about the coming GLORIOUS theocracy , and the nature of God. Christians, myself included, have failed miserably to this end , I admit. And, it seems we still have a LOT of work to do. Blessings, from flyover ( and spray) America.

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RE: Tear down those pyramids.
Reply on September 12, 2017 04:32 PM << Modifed September 12 at 4:37PM >>
I'll just name one for now, DJ. That was Sandy Hook was a hoax that you swore up and down Jones never said, and he did.

No doubt Bakker was railroaded into jail by the powers that be on 24 counts of fraud and conspiracy. I mean it's a given that a man personally picked by God should live in an opulent mansion equipped with many luxuries including servants, an air-conditioned dog house and a fleet of Mercedes and Rolls-Royces, all paid for by his doting flock, some of whom could barely feed themselves. You're right! It's like we're living in two completely separate realities.

It's the same feeling you get when you both look at the same picture of Trump and you see a bloated, out-of-shape, 71 year old man eating meat on a stick whilst cruising over one of his many international golf courses riding a fully-loaded cart and they see a buff, handsome young warrior in full maille armour brandishing a sword atop his noble steed leading his motley crew of impoverished soldiers into battle.

Comparing my so-called "conspiracies" to InfoWars or Bakker's is laughable and patently absurd. I'm not making millions and millions and millions of dollars broadcasting my opinions to a captive audience of millions and millions and millions of paying customers. In fact the ONLY place I post is on FanStory to a readership of perhaps 20 and I pay for the privilege of doing so, and that is just ducky by me. Moreover I doubt I've influenced anyone's beliefs as that is not my intention. Neither have I accused anyone of murdering countless people including a little old lady for spreading a conspiracy that she herself acknowledged was a rumour already known by millions of people.

The Prince is hardly my manual or a guideline to live by. It's a book worth reading if you want to begin understanding the minds of ruthless men like Trump and his ilk.



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RE: Tear down those pyramids.
Reply on September 14, 2017 11:36 AM


Gloria, when you say

"...I'm not making millions and millions and millions of dollars broadcasting my opinions to a captive audience of millions and millions and millions of paying customers."

I dare say that none of AJ's audience is captive. Not even you. ( Well, unless you count your fetish for spouting big,big,big numbers, or perhaps the way your brain is trained to be engaged in the "class envy / warfare" ruse, as a personal prison. ( or divide and conquer strategy , if you prefer, propagated BY the elite. "Don't hate me because I use evil to make me rich, hate me because my richness makes me evil"). This is, in my view, one of Lucifer's favorite red herring tools. I would also say that I don't pay anything for listening to AJ, and most don't. I have bought some of his great products from time to time. And, I wish I had more money to support him. I could say much more, but what's the point?

I am not condoning in any way the actions of Bakker all those years ago. I don't remember the details at all. I was a dumb highschool kid at the time. Or , maybe even a more dumbed down college kid. Idk, I'd have to look up the date. I do know, that like all of us, he was/ is a fallible man. But I also know his current fruit, tells me very much that he is currently partaking in the building of the Kingdom of God...Right here, right now. Or what could be called tapping into the eternal, yet unseen ( for now) realm known as the heavenlies. Blessings to my fellow Truth seeker.


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RE: Tear down those pyramids.
Reply on September 14, 2017 07:39 PM
DJ, you say,

"Well, unless you count your fetish for spouting big,big,big numbers, or perhaps the way your brain is trained to be engaged in the "class envy / warfare" ruse, as a personal prison. ( or divide and conquer strategy , if you prefer, propagated BY the elite. "Don't hate me because I use evil to make me rich, hate me because my richness makes me evil"

While it is true I find numbers useful and amazingly cool, I submit to you fetish is entirely the wrong word choice. I will however admit to a deep and abiding admiration for two VERY big numbers, zero and one.

That said, I must congratulate you on evoking two diversionary tactics:

1) False association

2) A straw man argument

You are a man of unbelievable skill. Not only have you claimed ability to read my mind you have also accused my brain of subscribing to class envy/warfare as ingrained by the "elite". Having made up that false association from thin air, you then proceeded to create the straw man argument by attacking me on a point of view and position that is not mine in any aspect. In doing so, you've cleverly framed an entirely false argument within artificial boundaries. By establishing a left/right dichotomy with your class envy/warfare trick you've engineered an inaccurate way of thinking within which to present your own judgmental paradigm--all done with zero actual input from me.

I can't think of any possible good reason for this exercise other than to throw up a straw man, thereby manufacturing a debate to manipulate people into choosing one side over the other based on emotional, rather than logical reasons. Such tactics obstruct genuine discourse and foster competition where beating the other team is more important than ensuring the integrity of one's own.

In response to your comment, "This is, in my view, one of Lucifer's favorite red herring tools", unless you are Lucifer you have just made up a red herring argument out of whole cloth.

It is my hope that in moments of deep reflection you also agree accusing innocent people of murder and other hideous crimes they haven't committed is malicious. People who sacrifice their conscience and fabricate such stories for financial gain destroy trust, hope and the lives of real people.

Here is another example of a false story created by InfoWars that had real life consequences.



After declaring 'I will win or I will die' in a lawsuit against Chobani Yogurt Plant, the InfoWars host, Alex Jones settled, apologized, and retracted his false claims that the company imported migrant rapists who also increased Tuberculosis in Twin Falls, Idaho by 500%. Jones's allegations against the company and workers were fabricated.

NOTE: Jones's net worth is stated at $8 million and is likely in reality much higher.



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RE: Tear down those pyramids.
Reply on September 15, 2017 04:07 AM << Modifed September 15 at 4:50AM >>
The trouble with utopias, though, is that ideas of utopia are personal things. Some people believe utopia is a world converted to Islam. I wouldn't fancy it, would you?

So, let's suppose for a minute, that there is a god, and he turns up to take control of the world. What if it isn't yours? I mean, if your god turned up, millions of people who were also believers, but in the wrong god, wouldn't be facing their utopia, would they? So, if Ranganui and Papatuanuku turn up, what then? You'd better hope they are a lot more merciful to the unbelievers than your god, otherwise you'll be no better off than me.

There are numerous other gods still believed in by a reasonable portion of the world. Those believers all have their own utopias. Maybe not so different, but you can bet they'll include something special for those who believe, and crap fro everyone else, just like yours does, because that's one of the ways religion controls behaviour.

And therein lies my problem with the whole thing. In MY utopia, all you have to be is decent to your fellow man. That is its own reward. Yours has a condition on it. It isn't enough to treat people well. There's no mention of a 'maybe' pile, you are a sheep or a goat, and which pen you are herded into doesn't depend on the blameless life you lead, it depends on your beliefs. So that's all the Hindus, all the Sikhs, all the members of those tribes who worship their own gods, Maoris, Aboriginals, Masai Mara, doomed to be cast out ... basically, your utopia is reserved mainly for you and yours, not for them and theirs.

Because, in your bible, there won't be any appeal come judgement day, will there? Jesus will come and exact his 'vengeance', so it says in Thessalonians. It doesn't say that when he separates the sheep from the goats, the goats will have any appeal, or any chance to promise eternal love. It will be too late. OK, say you could say God will see beyond claims of faith, look into those hearts and see a belief there which is really to him, not to the other gods, and if they had only but heard the name of Jesus, etc.

But if that is truly possible, then he may look into your heart and see, not a sheep, but a goat? What if your reward for all your believing isn't forthcoming. What if, what your god sees deep in you, isn't what you thought was there?

My utopia seems far less complicated, and doesn't involve so much judgement. It's about as likely as yours, I'll admit, but at least it isn't based on some arbitrary idea of goodness/evil having a direct connection to what deity you devoted your life to believing in, which might not even be enough come the finish of it.

Then again, if all that happens is that we 'sinners' just are condemned to live a life without your specific god, as also indicated in Thessalonians, I doubt those living perfectly happily without any god, or with a different one, will be that bothered. As long as you and yours leave us and ours to it, I'm sure we'd be just fine.

Talking of history, how much disaster and destruction has, in actual fact, been related to that inability for humans to do just that. Leave one group to do their thing, and just get on with doing yours? How would it be if, instead of going to America, or Australia, or New Zealand, and trying to shove those who lived another life out of the way, we'd just said, 'OK, you do you, and we'll do us. These are big countries, we'll just go to a part away from you, and if you want to join us, feel free, if not, carry on. Or, if that wasn't welcomed, we'd just said. 'Oh, OK. You don't want us here. That's fine, we don't have to be here, we've got homes to go to, or we'll go somewhere else where they might take us up on our offer.'

Imposing your utopia on to someone else doesn't create a utopia for the other. It forms the basis of the oppression seen across the globe, when Empire builders strike, and, sadly, that includes Christian empires.

Christianity has only become one of the biggest religions by force. If the Maoris had does as the Christian have, and taken their religion abroad, enforcing it by missionary and sword, we'd all know who those two gods I mentioned earlier on are. Would we be happy to have had our own beliefs subsumed in this way? Rendered primitive and savage?

Some say the current Islamist takeover bid echoes that of Christianity in days of yore. A bloody, brutal enforcement of a belief system, with the hope that, by forced indoctrination, it will become the accepted norm. You could say 'it is not the same, it is more brutal', but that depends on your perspective. From the perspective of the Native Americans, who were slaughtered/sterilised/stripped of their land, the supposed benevolence of the culture they were forced to accept and adopt was immaterial.

Islamists believe as you do. That we'd all be better off under the rule of their god. Sure, theirs is far less benevolent than yours is today, but rewind a few hundred years, and yours wasn't much better. Who knows, if the Western world was forced to live under Islamist rule, what the face of that religion will be four hundred years hence, and whether we'll listen when people point backwards and say, 'look what you did then'.

Will it look like my country in Tudor times, under the heavy thumb of you god, looks to me today? Because, according to the writing of the time, your god ruled then. Will Muslims 400 years from now say, as Christians do today, 'ahh, but that wasn't really our god, those people weren't doing his will', and will we all sit back and accept that as an answer, whilst we read our copies of the Q'ran with all the nasty bits explained away as parables, allegories or 'necessary to the times'?

Sometimes, if you put the shoe on the other foot, it doesn't feel so different as you'd think. Religions and gods spread with the spread of people who want to be where everyone thinks and acts and believes like them. The trouble starts when, said people, upon find that not everybody does that, find ingenious ways to make them, and even more ingenious ways to justify why they did it.






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RE: Tear down those pyramids.
Reply on September 15, 2017 10:08 AM


Hey Emma, I just now saw your great ,compelling and thoughtful post. Many interesting things to ponder and discuss. But for now,

G,you say

"You are a man of unbelievable skill. Not only have you claimed ability to read my mind you have also accused my brain of subscribing to class envy/warfare as ingrained by the "elite". Having made up that false association from thin air, you then proceeded to create the straw man argument by attacking me on a point of view and position that is not mine in any aspect"


Ummm..... Let me see here.... saying:

It's the same feeling you get when you both look at the same picture of Trump and you see a bloated, out-of-shape, 71 year old man eating meat on a stick whilst cruising over one of his many international golf courses riding a fully-loaded cart and they see a buff, handsome young warrior in full maille armour brandishing a sword atop his noble steed leading his motley crew of impoverished soldiers into battle.

No, no,no. That wouldn't strike any thinking person as being dripping with class warfare.... Come on Gloria, you aren't fooling me. No mind reading really required here at all, just good old black and white reading. Leave your Queen of hearts browbeating for your subjects in wonderland.


"By establishing a left/right dichotomy with your class envy/warfare trick you've engineered an inaccurate way of thinking within which to present your own judgmental paradigm--all done with zero actual input from me. "

Who said anything about left or right? Perhaps you are engineering

This looks like millions and millions and millions.....(Okay, just one or two) of accurate input to judge to me, G:

"I'm not making millions and millions and millions of dollars broadcasting my opinions to a captive audience of millions and millions and millions of paying customers. "



"Neither have I accused anyone of murdering countless people including a little old lady for spreading a conspiracy that she herself acknowledged was a rumour already known by millions of people. "

Did you mean millions and millions and millions?
Who is this sad little old lady?, surely you don't mean Hilary? ( Although, she IS quite sad)

I can't think of any possible good reason for this exercise other than to throw up a straw man, thereby manufacturing a debate to manipulate people into choosing one side over the other based on emotional, rather than logical reasons. Such tactics obstruct genuine discourse and foster competition where beating the other team is more important than ensuring the integrity of one's own.

You are the one offering up emotion , G :

"Feeling you get",..."bloated, out of shape... cruising his one of many",
..." buff, handsome young warriors", leading impoverished motley crew soldiers into battle " oh yeah, and that nasty man Alex Jones, that mean old rich millionaire bully,. picking on a poor old lady. Is this Hillary Clinton you are referring to G?,quite laughable. I am quite sure that , were the cameras not on her, she might show to you one tenth of the compassion that I show to her, if you were lucky.

Wake up!!!


Here's the rest of the story from the "horse's mouth", or what is called in wonderland the "horse's ass"




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RE: Tear down those pyramids.
Reply on September 15, 2017 11:53 PM << Modifed September 15 at 11:57PM >>
DJ regarding people seeing two completely different images of Trump from the same picture you say,

"No, no,no. That wouldn't strike any thinking person as being dripping with class warfare.... Come on Gloria, you aren't fooling me. No mind reading really required here at all, just good old black and white reading. Leave your Queen of hearts browbeating for your subjects in wonderland."

How is that dripping with class warfare? I'm not at all certain what it is that causes people to see the same man in so many different ways. DJ, you see it as class warfare because that is what you are looking for. I am not looking for class warfare as I consider the older white male stressed by the economic crunch and blaming it on immigration as only one small part of Trump's support base. I think this particular phenomenon (seeing exactly the same picture in two entirely different ways) is much more than that even though it's possible I'm reading too much into it, that darn analytical brain. I do have to chuckle at the apparent ease with which you box everything up so neatly. I have subjects that I am browbeating?! Well who knew! Will those among you who are my subjects that I am browbeating please identify yourselves.

I could read misogyny into your comment "Gloria, you aren't fooling me" as that could be interpreted as you belittling my opinions because I am female and might even be one of those bossy, devious, feminist types who would dare think she has the right to comment on the male form. Everyone knows it just isn't a woman's place to judge a man on anything at all. I could go around all day making up what I think you are saying, but until you actually tell me what you think it's all fiction in my mind and that explanation is far too simplistic in my opinion. My question however is serious and I would really like an answer. How does that particular statement drip with class warfare to you?

You say,

Did you mean millions and millions and millions?
Who is this sad little old lady?, surely you don't mean Hilary? ( Although, she IS quite sad)

Sad is your word, but the little old lady is Joan Rivers, the one Alex Jones suggested Michelle Obama either murdered herself or had murdered so Michelle's alleged secret of being a tranny wouldn't become well known even though Joan said herself it was all over the Internet and that is where she picked it up from. Murder to keep a "secret" known by millions seems like an exercise in stupidity. Kind of like locking the paddock gates after the horses are well out of the pasture and already gallivanting in the hills.

I am human and therefore emotion is part of me in all I do, including logical reasoning. No, that is not an oxymoron. Emotion plays a strong role in intellect.

You still didn't answer my question: Do you think it's morally right to accuse innocent people of murder and other crimes without a shred of evidence? That is not free speech and in Canada it is considered a crime.

I am baffled why your hatred remains focused on Hillary Clinton so intensely. She has the complete right to write and speak, just as long as she isn't accusing innocent people of murder. I will figure out the source of that continued irrational hate one day too.



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RE: Tear down those pyramids.
Reply on September 16, 2017 10:11 AM

Emma, I just remembered your questions on exodus 20 verse 4, the commandment to not make for yourself a graven image. To me,God is saying that if you worship some dead ( graven- deeply impressed- firmly fixed) thing that points your heart away from worshipping ME, and instead causes you to worship the actual dead thing, or some image of Him that is NOT Him, that is the sin. I don't know why anyone would want to do that, but apparently we can, and do. God even said through His prophets "why would you worship this dead wood, when you can worship ME", Or something like that anyways. That's my two cents worth anyways. I still intend to get around to commenting on and discussing your great post on Utopia , just haven't made the time yet. For me, I find that I have to be very limiting in the threads that I follow, comment upon , or even how often I look at them. This keeps me from having my time and thoughts consumed by this site. I guess I haven't mastered the art of being able to hold my tongue as many of you guys have apparently mastered. This, I find allows me to have some semblance of a life, AND keep the wife happy.lol. Not that I don't think that many of you guys out there don't have a ot of great things to say. For instance, I made the mistake of peeking at one of Cahilll's recent threads. A LOT of great wisdom in there Michael, But, to my view...... See what I mean. Lol. Blessings.


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RE: Tear down those pyramids.
Reply on September 17, 2017 07:21 AM
I agree with Deck. LOL Call the press.

It's simple as Deck points out. There's nothing wrong with the symbol per se, but we have a tendency to forget what the symbol represents and become enamored of the glittering gold and the intrinsic value of the metal. Once one places value on the symbol we begin to distract ourselves from our true purpose. It is inevitable that we place value on the object because we are, after all, materialistic by nature, yes?




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RE: Tear down those pyramids.
Reply on September 19, 2017 02:59 PM
I understand that, DJ, that applies well to the second part of the commandment, but the first part forbids even 'making' graven images:

'Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.'


So doesn't that include stained-glass windows, portraits, etc? Strict Jews used to get around it, I understand, by putting bird's heads on human bodies (though that doesn't really get round it since they are still portraying the likeness of a 'thing'). Come to that, how do we define, 'thing'? Isn't a cross a 'thing'?

Apparently, a friend told me once of an ingenious Jewish artist he knew who took this so literally, his art was colours and geometric shapes ...

I agree that sometimes people end up worshipping the 'thing' and prizing the 'thing', but I think that's true of some organised religions/churches. I worked with a girl who, I swear, was more worried about obeying her church than her god. She started dating this guy (all very chaste and Christian, no sex before marriage, etc), but she confided in me that, though he was a Christian, he wasn't a member of her church, and the church elders had called her in for a 'meeting' (which meant a bollocking), because she dared to date someone who didn't go to their church.

I wonder how many people believe more in their church and its rituals than in the actual god they purport to believe in?

   
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