A Brief Treatise on Gutless Gossips
Octogram46 total reviews
Comment from reconciled
Jesus James...not you too. -headshake-...is nothing outer limit, is it all inner space crazy...does it have to be a galaxy of character saboteurs, who infiltrate as shadow fiends disguised as friend; while reeking havoc and pain in behind the seen smear campaigns designed to assassinate them they've damned...for some damn reason lots of doctors should devote time to finding remedy.
I myself , having never been here....hope and pray they get run over by a trucks. love Michael
reply by the author on 28-May-2016
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Jesus James...not you too. -headshake-...is nothing outer limit, is it all inner space crazy...does it have to be a galaxy of character saboteurs, who infiltrate as shadow fiends disguised as friend; while reeking havoc and pain in behind the seen smear campaigns designed to assassinate them they've damned...for some damn reason lots of doctors should devote time to finding remedy.
I myself , having never been here....hope and pray they get run over by a trucks. love Michael
Comment Written 27-May-2016
reply by the author on 28-May-2016
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Well, I know you understand. When one reaches a certain level of coolness, blind jealousy is bound to kick in. HAHAHA! I'm guessing one remedy is to call them out and hear the silence. I see my friends aren't shy about speaking up. I hope they see that and slink back in to the shadows. Thanks a million. The trucks are rolling!!
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yes I've watched how remarkably easily Benedict switches into Tom Arnold also, its quite fascinating. I see ya got yer own hand writing now huh...
how come I feel like Rodney Dangerfield lately...
I'm not saying you don't deserve it Cahill...I'm just saying, cant I least get a pen set or something...throw a dog a bone will ya man...haha...love-
Comment from janalma
That's sad, Michael. Anyway, you wrote a good poem that shows your feelings. I'm sorry that you're feeling bad about it. But, you gave the remedy yourself. Don't pay any attention to them, as there are tons of people here and most don't harbor ill feelings toward you. Your poem is well said.
And the Rockwell pic is perfect for the topic.
reply by the author on 27-May-2016
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That's sad, Michael. Anyway, you wrote a good poem that shows your feelings. I'm sorry that you're feeling bad about it. But, you gave the remedy yourself. Don't pay any attention to them, as there are tons of people here and most don't harbor ill feelings toward you. Your poem is well said.
And the Rockwell pic is perfect for the topic.
Comment Written 26-May-2016
reply by the author on 27-May-2016
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After so many great friends like yourself stepped up to support me I'm actually smiling, so I'm not feeling so bad anymore. I'm pleased you liked my poem. This is a fun form, yes? I can't wait til Saturday. Thanks so much, Jan
mikey :))
Comment from jlsavell
Mr. Cahill,
It would be interesting to know how you came to know
what somone allegedly ? said or was it an unkind remark in a review. I suppose what I am saying friend is If the news was brought to you by a friend, why? Why would a friend want fo inform you of negativity. To what purpose?
I suppose whoever relayed the incident meant well and I do hope the friend put the basher in his/hers place.But
perhaps, just perhaps it should have ended there. Or perhaps you might have approached alleged wrongdoer and asked why? My Grandmother Emma would say " Seek to understand before being understood."
With that being said I am sorry for your pain and what this does to you. You are undeserved of unkind words.
My Grandmother Emma would say, once again, "Well, may the good Lord enter the heart of the tongue-wagger and fill the heart of victim with forgiveness and humor. Humor meanjng "thank goodness, I never realized I was so important in one's life,but it is what it is and at least it keeps the waggery card fromspeaking ill about someone else.
You know unfounded words and accusations can break a spirit, especially from trusted loved ones and or comraderies which share a like passion and bond, for we let our guard down and assume we all have the same values and good character. It becomes a huge let down when reality comes knocking.
I know the pain of unfounded unkind remarks and accusations.It doesn't feel good, but I have learned much through the maelstrom of unfairness and that is consider the source and choose to let it go, for what vested interest do rhey have in my life to allow them to influence your spirit and your emotions. I have had to take this road because I have had very unkind remarks and gossip about me from one who doesn't know me. Has never met me. Consider the source and what are they to you. They are simply a NOBODY.
With that being said, your post is a good and humble lesson for all to heed. We are all guilty of hurtibg someone with our wagging tongue,all of us. But once we recognize ourselves as falling short of good character, we must strive to not do it again, for then we would be like a dog returning to his vomit.
The Scriptures say, If a rudder can steer a ship and a bridle can steer a horse, think how much that one small member can steer. "
Gossiper and bearer of wayward souls indiscretions to boot.
Great octogram.
Jimi
Written from my cell phone at airport. Forgive typos..
reply by the author on 27-May-2016
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Mr. Cahill,
It would be interesting to know how you came to know
what somone allegedly ? said or was it an unkind remark in a review. I suppose what I am saying friend is If the news was brought to you by a friend, why? Why would a friend want fo inform you of negativity. To what purpose?
I suppose whoever relayed the incident meant well and I do hope the friend put the basher in his/hers place.But
perhaps, just perhaps it should have ended there. Or perhaps you might have approached alleged wrongdoer and asked why? My Grandmother Emma would say " Seek to understand before being understood."
With that being said I am sorry for your pain and what this does to you. You are undeserved of unkind words.
My Grandmother Emma would say, once again, "Well, may the good Lord enter the heart of the tongue-wagger and fill the heart of victim with forgiveness and humor. Humor meanjng "thank goodness, I never realized I was so important in one's life,but it is what it is and at least it keeps the waggery card fromspeaking ill about someone else.
You know unfounded words and accusations can break a spirit, especially from trusted loved ones and or comraderies which share a like passion and bond, for we let our guard down and assume we all have the same values and good character. It becomes a huge let down when reality comes knocking.
I know the pain of unfounded unkind remarks and accusations.It doesn't feel good, but I have learned much through the maelstrom of unfairness and that is consider the source and choose to let it go, for what vested interest do rhey have in my life to allow them to influence your spirit and your emotions. I have had to take this road because I have had very unkind remarks and gossip about me from one who doesn't know me. Has never met me. Consider the source and what are they to you. They are simply a NOBODY.
With that being said, your post is a good and humble lesson for all to heed. We are all guilty of hurtibg someone with our wagging tongue,all of us. But once we recognize ourselves as falling short of good character, we must strive to not do it again, for then we would be like a dog returning to his vomit.
The Scriptures say, If a rudder can steer a ship and a bridle can steer a horse, think how much that one small member can steer. "
Gossiper and bearer of wayward souls indiscretions to boot.
Great octogram.
Jimi
Written from my cell phone at airport. Forgive typos..
Comment Written 26-May-2016
reply by the author on 27-May-2016
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Oh, I got a private message informing me of all of this. LOL
I'll be darned, eh? I'm not all that surprised or even upset. I've always been a musician and somewhat in the spotlight as a result, so I'm used to that generating some jealousy and envy or whatever. It's silly because it doesn't mean a thing other than I'm one of a million other musicians, no big deal honestly. Plus I tend to be a teeny bit loud and obnoxious. HAHAHA! So, I guess it's remotely possible I might get noticed once in a while.
But, it does hurt anyone when people think unkindly of you, so all of your words do hit home and I know I'm certainly not the only one here in this boat. I know gossip and back stabbing is big business here and that was the main reason to speak out.
It isn't just me, it's me and a lot of others who may not want to stand up and call people out in the open.
I knew not a single one of them would step up and I hope everyone sees that. I also hope everyone sees that real people, decent honest people don't have the slightest hesitation to step out in the light of day and state their feelings.
Now, I'm sending my girl, Jimi, here on a plane right now to kick your butt, so you better run!!!
Seriously though, I'm so pleased you took the time out to respond, I know your busy and it does mean the world to me.
I'm also delighted you liked my poem too. I write pretty good when I'm mad. LOL Thanks so much, mikey
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You take care dear sweet friend. I am glad we are friends and share likeness. I am a music lover, not a musician, just a lover. Now you go take on the day. I am in Boston today. Beautiful city!
Comment from nomi338
Whether you realize it or not the people who exposed themselves to you have done you a favor. I know that is small consolation, but if it helps you to know who to avoid that is cool. Unfortunately there are people even here who are just small minded and prone to act thus. I not only do not know you, I certainly don't have a problem with you or anyone you care about. I like your poem and the spirit in which it was written.
reply by the author on 27-May-2016
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Whether you realize it or not the people who exposed themselves to you have done you a favor. I know that is small consolation, but if it helps you to know who to avoid that is cool. Unfortunately there are people even here who are just small minded and prone to act thus. I not only do not know you, I certainly don't have a problem with you or anyone you care about. I like your poem and the spirit in which it was written.
Comment Written 26-May-2016
reply by the author on 27-May-2016
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Oh yes, I agree totally. I'm not worried at all. They're bad. I just thought I'd let them know I'm not hiding in a corner somewhere I'm right here. I've got a friend or two that might not agree with them. :)) So pleased you enjoyed my poem. I've always got your back. Call me anytime. Thanks so much, mikey
Comment from Lovinia
Hi Mikey
What a fantastic octogram! I do hate to read the content though. I always think of poets as people who like to express their joy or pain in a wholesome way to guide others and provide cathartic relief. I can't see where malicious gossip comes in ... and gossip is one of my FAVOURITE HATES!!!! All you bullies leave Mikey alone. You obviously don't know the first thing about him, and ego-maniac he IS NOT!. I feel angry and disappointed to read this, about Mikey, about any of my friends, in fact, about anyone. If you are unable to understand a person's wit or sense of humour, or simply don't like them, that's fine ... just NO REASON to bully!!! Bullies are cowards btw!!! So sorry Mikey. Well I love you and your real friends do. Even if it doesn't 'get' to you, it is still frustrating. Oh people of limited understanding, shallow, cruel, really there is so much glory in the world rather than embroil ourselves in stupidity. My two cents.
Stay away from Mikey and others you do this to ... you're not worthy of the time of day. Mikey causes no harm and is so intelligent and funny. Nuff said. Grr ... I'm so angry ... of course Mikey can stand up for himself, I'm expressing my opinion.
Fab presentation, excellent poem, a shame about the idiocy of some people. I'm so pleased I have a six left. Not for sympathy, for poetic excellence. :)) LOVE YA! GOT YOUR BACK! Huge hugs - bring the sax and have some jam. Lovi xoxo
reply by the author on 27-May-2016
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Hi Mikey
What a fantastic octogram! I do hate to read the content though. I always think of poets as people who like to express their joy or pain in a wholesome way to guide others and provide cathartic relief. I can't see where malicious gossip comes in ... and gossip is one of my FAVOURITE HATES!!!! All you bullies leave Mikey alone. You obviously don't know the first thing about him, and ego-maniac he IS NOT!. I feel angry and disappointed to read this, about Mikey, about any of my friends, in fact, about anyone. If you are unable to understand a person's wit or sense of humour, or simply don't like them, that's fine ... just NO REASON to bully!!! Bullies are cowards btw!!! So sorry Mikey. Well I love you and your real friends do. Even if it doesn't 'get' to you, it is still frustrating. Oh people of limited understanding, shallow, cruel, really there is so much glory in the world rather than embroil ourselves in stupidity. My two cents.
Stay away from Mikey and others you do this to ... you're not worthy of the time of day. Mikey causes no harm and is so intelligent and funny. Nuff said. Grr ... I'm so angry ... of course Mikey can stand up for himself, I'm expressing my opinion.
Fab presentation, excellent poem, a shame about the idiocy of some people. I'm so pleased I have a six left. Not for sympathy, for poetic excellence. :)) LOVE YA! GOT YOUR BACK! Huge hugs - bring the sax and have some jam. Lovi xoxo
Comment Written 26-May-2016
reply by the author on 27-May-2016
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Hi, Lovi
Whooo Hooo. Look at all the words. YAY!!!
Eh, these fools can hide in the dark and gossip all they want. I think they can see my friends have no problem coming out in the light of day and saying what they think. We're not the least bit concerned by them and we all have each other's back no worries in the world! I am truly touched by your response and know I would defend you against an army. Your one awesome gal, one of the best I've met in my life. No one says a word about you and has a tongue left in their mouth. My opinion. :))
Sax and jam it is. Each other's backs. It's sounding better and better. YEP! ((HUGS)) mikey
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LOL you cheeky bugger! I suppose we should feel sorry for those who have so little belief in themselves they have to maliciously align others to feel full. What goes around comes around, not for me to judge really, though the human, bitch part of me wants to hate them. I think most of my social commentary poems are about bullies. I've had an e-mail with such content, at least letting me know gently. Some say this is not friendship, though what if we hear our friends maligned and not do anything? I imagine the issue then, is still an issue for some here. I don't get involved with gossip, or listen to it. I haven't heard anything about you honey pie, though I have heard this sort of thing happens frequently to many of our talented and popular poets and writers. I have enough bullies in my life to content with, I don't have time to deal with any on FS. I think the people I know and respect are fabulous friends ... personally I think I'm too boring to draw attention. Hahaha! A sense of humour is the best defence, maybe. Thanks for having my back sweetie pie and me yours. I:))) read your reviews and found you have great support. (((((Mikey)))))
I finally managed a practice octogram ... it took an hour, though the meter is probably off. I have to earn some dollars to post, and get my haiku in by the deadline also!! Always at the last minute!! A chook with my head chopped off, that's me. lol (No harm meant to any chickens). RUNNING ... with my slippers on. Our first really chilly winter's day ... brr. Love & Huge HUGS - Lovi xoxoxo
Comment from mountainwriter49
Good Afternoon, Mikey,
I'm trying to get into the Potlatch thing and trying to review those you've said have already posted the 'practice' octograms.
Your octogram is in fine form. The iambs are spotless, the end rhymes effective and the rhyme patten compliant with the form. Your use of enjambment is excellent.
The theme of the poem is well developed. I'm not aware of the attacks about which you speak. So glad I'm not in the drama club.
Well done,
Ray
reply by the author on 26-May-2016
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Good Afternoon, Mikey,
I'm trying to get into the Potlatch thing and trying to review those you've said have already posted the 'practice' octograms.
Your octogram is in fine form. The iambs are spotless, the end rhymes effective and the rhyme patten compliant with the form. Your use of enjambment is excellent.
The theme of the poem is well developed. I'm not aware of the attacks about which you speak. So glad I'm not in the drama club.
Well done,
Ray
Comment Written 26-May-2016
reply by the author on 26-May-2016
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Ah, great news. I like to think I have the iambs down pretty good now, but I still have nightmares. LOL
I'm kind of liking this from. It's suited to my little rant here. It's not a big deal, just pointing it out mainly so those in the shadows can get a glimpse of how many have no problem coming out in the daylight to make their intentions known. We're delighted with your help in our little endeavor. It's given us all a boost. Thanks a million. mikey
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Thanks, Mikey.
You have indeed come a long way in a very good way in writing in meter. I'm proud of you.
The drama on FS is among the most intense I've seen during my time since Fall 2009. I don't like it. Where is the give and take, the humility and civility? It must make a comeback!
I'll try to work with Potlatch as I can. I do not subscribe to "Speed Writing of Poetry," but then again, I'm an old, slow-pace man who can't work that fast. Now that I understand you're accommodating of slow old men and women, I'm more comfortable giving it a try.
I must admit, I'd never tired to do an octogram had it not been for your challenge. Even though I jumped the gun and published on Monday, unwittingly, I enjoyed it and did indeed learn how to work in a form with which I was unfamiliar. It took me 4+ hours to write that short poem!
Anyhow, thanks a lot. I look forward to participating with the P group.
Ray
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Great to hear, Ray. We're happy to have you! mikey
Comment from Barb Hensongispsaca
Hear, hear!'
Perfect message and you used the potlatch challenge to practice and make a point at the same time.
Excellent octogram according to the instructions and it made sense at the same time. I have not tried one yet and it scares the begeebers out of me.
Now, I have something to say to you and you need to listen...so far I have not heard anything and if I did I would defend my man to the end...so fear not. They will have to get through me to get to you.
Now about that warm bath...wine...and voice...
reply by the author on 27-May-2016
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Hear, hear!'
Perfect message and you used the potlatch challenge to practice and make a point at the same time.
Excellent octogram according to the instructions and it made sense at the same time. I have not tried one yet and it scares the begeebers out of me.
Now, I have something to say to you and you need to listen...so far I have not heard anything and if I did I would defend my man to the end...so fear not. They will have to get through me to get to you.
Now about that warm bath...wine...and voice...
Comment Written 26-May-2016
reply by the author on 27-May-2016
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I was terrified, Barb. But to tell you the truth, this was a piece of cake. It's really a cool form. You'll kill it.
I KNOW you have my back, my dear. And you KNOW I have yours. I may just record something one of these days and surprise you. mikey :))
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Check out Cats response to my review to her 'Summer's Silvered Moon". You are loved and thought of with charisma. I am trying to write one and will put it out for help tomorrow night.
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I think YOU are giving me a reputation. LOL
THANKS!!!!!!! :)) mikey
That's very sweet. Thanks for pointing it out. Blush....
You'll see when you write one, it's perfect for you. :))
Comment from Jannypan (Jan)
Michael,
Your octogram is superb. The presentation is great--the color scheme, the artwork, the adherence to the format, and the awesome message. Everything you included in this octogram works together to create a memorable read which is fun to read, but has a serious message.
Your notes are fantastic. You certainly told them like it is [at least as it should be].
Good job and thanks for sharing & caring. Jan
reply by the author on 27-May-2016
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Michael,
Your octogram is superb. The presentation is great--the color scheme, the artwork, the adherence to the format, and the awesome message. Everything you included in this octogram works together to create a memorable read which is fun to read, but has a serious message.
Your notes are fantastic. You certainly told them like it is [at least as it should be].
Good job and thanks for sharing & caring. Jan
Comment Written 26-May-2016
reply by the author on 27-May-2016
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Hey, Janny
This octogram thing isn't too bad. I think we're going to kill it on Saturday! Yeah, they can talk all they want in the dark. We march right out in broad daylight and tell them where to go. Thanks a million. mikey :))
Comment from Rubylou
Hi Mikey,
I've never tried the octogram for but it seems well suited to your message
The image caught my eye and reminded me of the telephone game played by children. As the gossip goes on, the message gets distorted.
I haven't received any cruel attacks personally but it bothers me that some people are hurtful to fellow members that I respect on this site.
Anyway, that's my two cents worth.
Rubylou
reply by the author on 27-May-2016
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Hi Mikey,
I've never tried the octogram for but it seems well suited to your message
The image caught my eye and reminded me of the telephone game played by children. As the gossip goes on, the message gets distorted.
I haven't received any cruel attacks personally but it bothers me that some people are hurtful to fellow members that I respect on this site.
Anyway, that's my two cents worth.
Rubylou
Comment Written 26-May-2016
reply by the author on 27-May-2016
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I remember doing that in grammar school. LOL
We'd get in a line and whisper in the first one's ear and by the time it got to the end of the line it would be something totally different! Honestly, it didn't really hurt me, I just wanted them to know I'd have no problem announcing it to the world and my friends would have no problem coming out in broad daylight and condemning it. :)) Thanks so much. Let me know if any one says a peep about you. Errrrr. mikey
Comment from Scarbrems
sorry, old chap, i tried hard to follow the rules you posted up for an octogram, but got hopelessly lost. it looks like one of those maths puzzles that are received in my brain as 'if an alien invades planet earth, how many pizzas did you order.' so, on that basis, i can't tell you if you have succeeded in creating the perfect octogram, but i can tell you it was powerful. nice alliteration with the 'b's in the strong last line of each stanza.
'Artists are supposed to admire each other and support each other' - you've never worked with actors, then, lol. i too think this kind of thing is terrible form, and i can't see why a nice chap like you is getting crap. but i also wonder why anybody cares what someone from miles away who you haven't met and will probably never meet thinks.
i'm damn sure i ain't well liked. i'm a socialist atheist, and i say so, lol. plus i will go a round or two with older, respected members if i think they are wrong, and i know a few think that's not cricket. but hey, i say my piece to them [well, behind the keyboard, from several thousand miles away, but you know what i mean].
the internet is full of this sort of thing, because people know it's not going to bite them on the bum in real life. on here, if the heat gets too bad, you can just change your name, and be sweetness and light in seconds. who's to know. or just bugger off. that tends to make people almost revert to child like reactions. because they can.
it is pants that you are getting this, but it is what happens when you stick your head above the parapet, i'm afraid.
i think you are an awesome dude who does an awful lot for the site and its members. just look at 'potlatch'.
sorry for lack of capital letters and some punctuation, my shift key has gone on strike.
reply by the author on 27-May-2016
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sorry, old chap, i tried hard to follow the rules you posted up for an octogram, but got hopelessly lost. it looks like one of those maths puzzles that are received in my brain as 'if an alien invades planet earth, how many pizzas did you order.' so, on that basis, i can't tell you if you have succeeded in creating the perfect octogram, but i can tell you it was powerful. nice alliteration with the 'b's in the strong last line of each stanza.
'Artists are supposed to admire each other and support each other' - you've never worked with actors, then, lol. i too think this kind of thing is terrible form, and i can't see why a nice chap like you is getting crap. but i also wonder why anybody cares what someone from miles away who you haven't met and will probably never meet thinks.
i'm damn sure i ain't well liked. i'm a socialist atheist, and i say so, lol. plus i will go a round or two with older, respected members if i think they are wrong, and i know a few think that's not cricket. but hey, i say my piece to them [well, behind the keyboard, from several thousand miles away, but you know what i mean].
the internet is full of this sort of thing, because people know it's not going to bite them on the bum in real life. on here, if the heat gets too bad, you can just change your name, and be sweetness and light in seconds. who's to know. or just bugger off. that tends to make people almost revert to child like reactions. because they can.
it is pants that you are getting this, but it is what happens when you stick your head above the parapet, i'm afraid.
i think you are an awesome dude who does an awful lot for the site and its members. just look at 'potlatch'.
sorry for lack of capital letters and some punctuation, my shift key has gone on strike.
Comment Written 26-May-2016
reply by the author on 27-May-2016
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Oh, Geez. My family tried to make me a child star our here in Hollywood. HAHAHA! YES! The most vicious people in the world. Yep, worse than this!
I'm not worried about this. But I wasn't going to sit in a corner, so I figured shooting my big mouth off would be fun. I knew my real friends would come out in the light of day and show them what it looks like out of the shadows.
So weird like you say. None of us are anywhere near each other, but there is sooooo much jealousy and emotion involved. I've never seen anything like it.
I love someone who can state their point of view with intelligence and without losing their mind. It's a reminder to me for one thing to keep my own mind intact. I remember back in the day I'd lapse into the thinking that the other side was populated by evil idiots. That's when I'd have to catch myself. No, just people who disagreed.
You're awfully sweet to respond with such kind words. They do help and I hope some of the people in the shadows read them and feel foolish. OMG. I love that phrase, "It is pants that you are getting this." That is in my vocabulary now. LOVE IT. The more I'm on this site the less people around me understand what I'm talking about. They think I'm a pile of rubbish I guess. LOL I'm thrilled you liked my poem by the way. It's a pretty cool form that I was too angry to be afraid of. So it came out pretty good. Thanks so much, mikey
