Is the Immigration System Broken?
A quick look at America's system30 total reviews
Comment from c_lucas
The American political system seems to be working toward,demean the law of the land. This is very well written with a smooth flow of words, making for a good read.
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2014
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The American political system seems to be working toward,demean the law of the land. This is very well written with a smooth flow of words, making for a good read.
Comment Written 24-Nov-2014
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2014
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Thank you very much
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You're welcome, Lancellot. Charlie
Comment from Phyllis Stewart
Well, last things first--we can't fix the problems South Americans are running away from. But we CAN and SHOULD fix the stupid LEGAL IMMIGRATION system, yet NO ONE ever suggests that. WHY? It currently takes up to ten, yes TEN, years to immigrate here from the south legally. Isn't that absurd? If we made it more sensible, then we would not so many jumping fences and dying in the desert to get here. They could just wait a year while we check on them and ride over in a bus.
Congress should do this at once. Before a fence. But the fence is needed and should come ALONG WITH something like the president is doing for settled, productive families that have been here for a while. Let's concentrate on doing things RIGHT for a change instead of bickering and doing nothing.
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2014
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Well, last things first--we can't fix the problems South Americans are running away from. But we CAN and SHOULD fix the stupid LEGAL IMMIGRATION system, yet NO ONE ever suggests that. WHY? It currently takes up to ten, yes TEN, years to immigrate here from the south legally. Isn't that absurd? If we made it more sensible, then we would not so many jumping fences and dying in the desert to get here. They could just wait a year while we check on them and ride over in a bus.
Congress should do this at once. Before a fence. But the fence is needed and should come ALONG WITH something like the president is doing for settled, productive families that have been here for a while. Let's concentrate on doing things RIGHT for a change instead of bickering and doing nothing.
Comment Written 24-Nov-2014
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Thank you very much
Comment from patcelaw
The laws in place afford for legal immigration, but there are those who think we can bend the rules to shape to the whim of our thinking. Just enforce the laws on the books.
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2014
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The laws in place afford for legal immigration, but there are those who think we can bend the rules to shape to the whim of our thinking. Just enforce the laws on the books.
Comment Written 24-Nov-2014
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Thank you very much
Comment from Kingsland
I liked the patching of the hole comment in this article, but other then that. You are out on a limb here. What difference does it make who controls the house. They just refuse to get things done no matter who is in control. So the president needs to act, because the congress won't act. As far as your commentary on the rate of blacks in the prison system. Most of them are there on drug related charges. Yet there are far more white people involved in the trafficking of illegal drugs. That just doesn't add up, now does it. But I already know how you think on this matter as you've made your feeling known on the forum many times. You also know that I disagree with your assumptions. Even with all of that being said this is a well written article that was very lucid and gave its points clearly. I don't have to agree with them to know it is well written... John
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2014
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I liked the patching of the hole comment in this article, but other then that. You are out on a limb here. What difference does it make who controls the house. They just refuse to get things done no matter who is in control. So the president needs to act, because the congress won't act. As far as your commentary on the rate of blacks in the prison system. Most of them are there on drug related charges. Yet there are far more white people involved in the trafficking of illegal drugs. That just doesn't add up, now does it. But I already know how you think on this matter as you've made your feeling known on the forum many times. You also know that I disagree with your assumptions. Even with all of that being said this is a well written article that was very lucid and gave its points clearly. I don't have to agree with them to know it is well written... John
Comment Written 24-Nov-2014
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Thank you very much
Comment from chasennov
A quick look at America's system "Is the Immigration System Broken?" Well, you ask a lot of serious questions, and some legitimate ones too, but is there anybody who will agree with you, or speak up against you? This is the situation always. Dead mules. Well done.
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2014
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A quick look at America's system "Is the Immigration System Broken?" Well, you ask a lot of serious questions, and some legitimate ones too, but is there anybody who will agree with you, or speak up against you? This is the situation always. Dead mules. Well done.
Comment Written 24-Nov-2014
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2014
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Thank you very much
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You are welcome.
Comment from GeraldS
This is a well written argument and I agree with many of the points you make. However, I also am aware of how easy it is to criticize and be a Monday morning quarterback. Being president is not an easy job. If you look at 'before' and 'after' pictures, they all look as though they've aged twenty years in their term of office regardless if it was four or eight years. And while the people elected a Republican congress, they also elected a Democratic president. I think we should all respect the office of president and support the choice of the people whether we agree with everything he does or not. If he truly has broken the law there are checks and balances that will come into play, however I don't think one can make the assumption yet.
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2014
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This is a well written argument and I agree with many of the points you make. However, I also am aware of how easy it is to criticize and be a Monday morning quarterback. Being president is not an easy job. If you look at 'before' and 'after' pictures, they all look as though they've aged twenty years in their term of office regardless if it was four or eight years. And while the people elected a Republican congress, they also elected a Democratic president. I think we should all respect the office of president and support the choice of the people whether we agree with everything he does or not. If he truly has broken the law there are checks and balances that will come into play, however I don't think one can make the assumption yet.
Comment Written 24-Nov-2014
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2014
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Thank you very much
Comment from JBCaine
Lance-
Throwing a sixer just because I applaud your audacity.
Personally, I can't stand the nasty responses I will get, knowing my ability to respond in kind is disallowed... so I generally just stay out of this stuff on this site.
The answer to the question in your title is, of course, a resounding "Yes!!" The system is broken, and the fact is that neither of the two parties have a stake in fixing the problem.
My opinion on your piece is irrelevant, I agree with some, disagree with some.
In the end, your piece is well documented and supports your points, but the real question remains unanswered.
The real question is, "If this president was wrong, along with other presidents who have done similar things, what is the legal and workable solution?" I sure as hell don't know.
Good luck solving this for us, and I will expect a full report on my desk by the week's end.
Best to you, Sir.
JBCaine
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Lance-
Throwing a sixer just because I applaud your audacity.
Personally, I can't stand the nasty responses I will get, knowing my ability to respond in kind is disallowed... so I generally just stay out of this stuff on this site.
The answer to the question in your title is, of course, a resounding "Yes!!" The system is broken, and the fact is that neither of the two parties have a stake in fixing the problem.
My opinion on your piece is irrelevant, I agree with some, disagree with some.
In the end, your piece is well documented and supports your points, but the real question remains unanswered.
The real question is, "If this president was wrong, along with other presidents who have done similar things, what is the legal and workable solution?" I sure as hell don't know.
Good luck solving this for us, and I will expect a full report on my desk by the week's end.
Best to you, Sir.
JBCaine
Comment Written 24-Nov-2014
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2014
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Thank you very much
Comment from Kenneth Schaal
I like and admire your thinking more all the time. If people would only just open their eyes to what is really happening (and then their mouths) instead of vice versa; laws would be followed, records set straight and we would discover the Laws aren't broken, only unused, and flagrantly avoided. Obama will not stop with immigration; he'll push hard behind his every agenda. 2016 will be the most interesting year. Kenny
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2014
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I like and admire your thinking more all the time. If people would only just open their eyes to what is really happening (and then their mouths) instead of vice versa; laws would be followed, records set straight and we would discover the Laws aren't broken, only unused, and flagrantly avoided. Obama will not stop with immigration; he'll push hard behind his every agenda. 2016 will be the most interesting year. Kenny
Comment Written 23-Nov-2014
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2014
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Thank you very much
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i wonder how this would sell at the laundrymat.
Comment from Jay Squires
Interesting article, not one I wholly agree with, but it was well reasoned out.
A few nits you need to consider:
Well, why to do blame guns and not the adults who kill with them? [...why DO WE? blame guns...]
Before you cry it's racism you idiot. [Not a complete sentence & I don't know what you're trying to say.]
I know this is a sour point [a SORE point...]
My main concern is that when Presidents ignore the constitution to do what they want, and people cheer. [I think you wanted to leave out the "that". Otherwise it is not a complete sentence and doesn't mean anything.]
(no stereo type intended) (... stereotype intended >> is connected.]
My guidelines allow for only three nits. For four or more, I deduct one star. However, if you let me know you have made the corrections I shall return the star to you. Fair enough?
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reply by the author on 24-Nov-2014
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Interesting article, not one I wholly agree with, but it was well reasoned out.
A few nits you need to consider:
Well, why to do blame guns and not the adults who kill with them? [...why DO WE? blame guns...]
Before you cry it's racism you idiot. [Not a complete sentence & I don't know what you're trying to say.]
I know this is a sour point [a SORE point...]
My main concern is that when Presidents ignore the constitution to do what they want, and people cheer. [I think you wanted to leave out the "that". Otherwise it is not a complete sentence and doesn't mean anything.]
(no stereo type intended) (... stereotype intended >> is connected.]
My guidelines allow for only three nits. For four or more, I deduct one star. However, if you let me know you have made the corrections I shall return the star to you. Fair enough?
This rating does not count towards story rating or author rank.
The highest and the lowest rating are not included in calculations.
Comment Written 23-Nov-2014
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2014
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Thank you, Jay. Good on the edits, I needed them. I'm curious, where do you not wholly agree? Did I miss something?
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Oh, no, you didn't miss anything. You are knowledgeable about the subject. I am not. I am apolitical. Not proud of that, but it's just a fact. Politics put me to sleep.
It's very difficult to blanketly say that because a president has a congress that is the same as his political affiliation, that he should have gotten bills passed that he had as his platform promises. To say that without taking into consideration everything else that he had on his political plate at that time, is making his office duties too simplistic. Perhaps he should have pushed for legislation in immigration reform and health care harder. I just don't know, but I don't want to be too simplistic about his duties.
Comment from donaldww
There is some truth to that, but there is also another side.
[The statement referred to is true, it can't be partially true. So just say so --
That is true, but there is another side to the issue.
]
... loved by racist[s] ...
Well, I suppose you You could speak about it, but be prepared to be viciously attacked for daring to say it.
[Clear out words that don't carry the weight of the argument.]
My main concern isthat when Presidents ignore the constitution to do what they want, and people cheer.
You make many excellent points in your essay, but to conclude that people fleeing conditions in their homeland should fix the conditions rather than fleeing is nonsense. Of course, if those people had the means to "fix what they are running from," they would do so.
Cheers,
DW
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2014
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There is some truth to that, but there is also another side.
[The statement referred to is true, it can't be partially true. So just say so --
That is true, but there is another side to the issue.
]
... loved by racist[s] ...
[Clear out words that don't carry the weight of the argument.]
My main concern is
You make many excellent points in your essay, but to conclude that people fleeing conditions in their homeland should fix the conditions rather than fleeing is nonsense. Of course, if those people had the means to "fix what they are running from," they would do so.
Cheers,
DW
Comment Written 23-Nov-2014
reply by the author on 24-Nov-2014
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Thank you, DW. A statement can be partially true, truth unlike facts depends on your point of view.
It is not nonsense. Everyday people in every corner of the world run from their problems instead of facing them and fixing them. If Dr. King looked at his world, saw what looked like a overwhelming problem and ran, where would we be? Where would I be? No one is saying that it will be easy, but do you really believe that the millions of people who ran, together couldn't effect change if they fought as one? History is filled with courageous men and women who stood up to evil and yes, with sacrifices fought it and won. Sometimes the only means you need is courage. Please do not underestimate what any people could do, when there is no other choice.
