The New Face of Feminism
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Comment from N.K. Wagner
Unfortuately, this is still a man's world, Ingrid. Were these atrocities aimed at men, they would be stopped in virtually no time. Aren't we really going to war with ISIS over beheadings - of men?
Collective outrage loses its effectiveness if loosed too often. And that's a sad fact. You'll notice the Nigerian government cared not at all about those poor girls. If they'd been boys...well that'd be different, right?
I applaud fathers who are active in their kids lives. I'm not sure if it's better to have 2 working parents or a parent who works 2 or 3 jobs so the other can take care of the kids. Single parents of either gender can't clone themselves and so need outside help. I wonder how many single moms get the kind of help your son does. I do know that moms taking time off from their jobs to participate in their kids' lives isn't praised nearly as loudly. Until it is, there's really no progress.
Great discussion, my friend. :) Nancy
reply by the author on 21-Nov-2014
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Unfortuately, this is still a man's world, Ingrid. Were these atrocities aimed at men, they would be stopped in virtually no time. Aren't we really going to war with ISIS over beheadings - of men?
Collective outrage loses its effectiveness if loosed too often. And that's a sad fact. You'll notice the Nigerian government cared not at all about those poor girls. If they'd been boys...well that'd be different, right?
I applaud fathers who are active in their kids lives. I'm not sure if it's better to have 2 working parents or a parent who works 2 or 3 jobs so the other can take care of the kids. Single parents of either gender can't clone themselves and so need outside help. I wonder how many single moms get the kind of help your son does. I do know that moms taking time off from their jobs to participate in their kids' lives isn't praised nearly as loudly. Until it is, there's really no progress.
Great discussion, my friend. :) Nancy
Comment Written 21-Nov-2014
reply by the author on 21-Nov-2014
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Well, for many years I was a single mom before Ivan moved in, and you are absolutely right. the attitude towards me leaned towards blame and consequences for a failed marriage, a sort of 'you made your bed, now lie in it.'
And the outrage over the beheadings is certainly an accelerator of action, but in that case, due to the graphic horrifying nature of the crime, I think it would be even worse if they did it to a woman. Having said that, they might just blame her for putting herself at risk by volunteering as the last young man did.
Thanks for all the stars.
Comment from ExperiencingLiphe
I worked with a girl and her dad raised her. Her mother left her and her dad like she didn't care, I guess she didn't. She went on to marry a second time and have a new slew of kids that she adored and spoiled. The girl at work once said that she gets so mad when people go on and on about dead beat dads but they never say anything about dead beat mothers. She had a point and you could hear all the hurt and anger she still held against her mother. How could you blame her? Her dad is amazing, thought I've never met him, he took both roles (mother and father), and ran with it. He did everything he could to give her a good life. That's what it's all about. My parents also worked opposite shifts so that someone was home during the day and someone was home at night. There were a couple hours in between we had a babysitter but for the most part of the day they tried to be available. Great job with this
reply by the author on 20-Nov-2014
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I worked with a girl and her dad raised her. Her mother left her and her dad like she didn't care, I guess she didn't. She went on to marry a second time and have a new slew of kids that she adored and spoiled. The girl at work once said that she gets so mad when people go on and on about dead beat dads but they never say anything about dead beat mothers. She had a point and you could hear all the hurt and anger she still held against her mother. How could you blame her? Her dad is amazing, thought I've never met him, he took both roles (mother and father), and ran with it. He did everything he could to give her a good life. That's what it's all about. My parents also worked opposite shifts so that someone was home during the day and someone was home at night. There were a couple hours in between we had a babysitter but for the most part of the day they tried to be available. Great job with this
Comment Written 20-Nov-2014
reply by the author on 20-Nov-2014
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Though not the preferred family, children can thrive if they know they are loved, regardless of which parent they live with after divorce. Both parents need to be involved. But like your friend, my grandchildren have a deadbeat mom who neither sees her kids nor contributes financially. When a single parent goes it alone, they absolutely DO deserve heaps of praise and it's good that the girl understands all that. Thanks for sharing.
Comment from maggieadams
"Here,Here". Or is it "Hear, Hear". Bravo in any event. I totally agree that women's rights and equality have been hard- fought, but the fight has and should move off-shore to the uncivilized barbarous areas of northern Africa and the Middle East....we need to be a collective voice and fight for the Ali's, the Mahala's and the Miriam's. Your well constructed and error-free arguments are an exposé on the women's movement. We've come a long way, baby, but we have miles to go before we sleep. Mwish I had a six.
reply by the author on 20-Nov-2014
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"Here,Here". Or is it "Hear, Hear". Bravo in any event. I totally agree that women's rights and equality have been hard- fought, but the fight has and should move off-shore to the uncivilized barbarous areas of northern Africa and the Middle East....we need to be a collective voice and fight for the Ali's, the Mahala's and the Miriam's. Your well constructed and error-free arguments are an exposé on the women's movement. We've come a long way, baby, but we have miles to go before we sleep. Mwish I had a six.
Comment Written 20-Nov-2014
reply by the author on 20-Nov-2014
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You should read my reviews. There's one interaction that may not surprise you, but leaves me shaking my head. Your opening sentence is spot on--HEAR,HEAR! Either I can't write or there are still people around who don't read or listen.
Thanks for the support.
Comment from rjpurdy
An important essay Spiritual Echo. I am a feminist!! As one with degrees in both sociology and psychology, I applaud you fighting the good fight. And decades you have persevered, impressive. It is very gratifying for me to see women beginning to be hired and elected for positions of power and job equity. We have made tremendous strides in North America because women had the freedom to put pressure on the men who hold all the power in our male dominant society. Your plea for awareness outside of our own safety zone is exactly what we should expect from women who care. I appreciate your challenge to call men to fight by your side. How many do you think will show up? Excellent commentary my friend.
~Peace & Grace~ Rod
reply by the author on 20-Nov-2014
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An important essay Spiritual Echo. I am a feminist!! As one with degrees in both sociology and psychology, I applaud you fighting the good fight. And decades you have persevered, impressive. It is very gratifying for me to see women beginning to be hired and elected for positions of power and job equity. We have made tremendous strides in North America because women had the freedom to put pressure on the men who hold all the power in our male dominant society. Your plea for awareness outside of our own safety zone is exactly what we should expect from women who care. I appreciate your challenge to call men to fight by your side. How many do you think will show up? Excellent commentary my friend.
~Peace & Grace~ Rod
Comment Written 20-Nov-2014
reply by the author on 20-Nov-2014
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My last husband was a man who was aware of women who were fluff heads, as much as he was aware of men who lacked backbone, but he was totally confused by feminism. He treated women as if they deserved to be cherished, but professionally expected his ENTIRE staff to be on their game. I insisted he filtered everything through his own attitudes and was globally blind.
Had everyone been as enlightened during my skirmishes with small-minded men, life would have been simpler.
Thanks for the stars and encouragement.
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Amen sister! I appreciate a woman of substance. Rod
Comment from Cindy Warren
Us women have come a long way, but we still have a way to go, especially in certain religious sects. Even in Canada and the US, little girls are being married to much older men. We all need to stand up and say that's not OK, never mind political correctness. And if a woman can be stoned for adultry, what about the man who probably lied and pressured her into it? If she knows the concequences, it's unlikely she's looking for an affair. It seems to me the men walk free.
reply by the author on 20-Nov-2014
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Us women have come a long way, but we still have a way to go, especially in certain religious sects. Even in Canada and the US, little girls are being married to much older men. We all need to stand up and say that's not OK, never mind political correctness. And if a woman can be stoned for adultry, what about the man who probably lied and pressured her into it? If she knows the concequences, it's unlikely she's looking for an affair. It seems to me the men walk free.
Comment Written 20-Nov-2014
reply by the author on 20-Nov-2014
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Most of the time the men do, often casting the first stone.
Comment from Dom G Robles
This essay, I suppose, speaks more of equality for women in the light of long and unrealized disparity we have for women. Under God's Laws, all men are created equal. Even our Constitution recognized this fact, but in by gone years, the right of a woman to live equally with man had been ignored.
But the world is changing...Where many years before women were not allowed to join the Armed Forces of a country, now that had changed completely. We see more and more of our women hold ranks in higher echelons. However, in some other countries, women are treated still lower in ranks. Men still hold the tradition that shows superiority over women. But over time this will change. This Essay is a strong reminder if not a advocacy that "feminism" should not be treated unfairly. Women's inferiority rank would soon be over in the course of time. Thanks for sharing a beautiful piece of written commentary and philosophy. Dom.
reply by the author on 20-Nov-2014
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This essay, I suppose, speaks more of equality for women in the light of long and unrealized disparity we have for women. Under God's Laws, all men are created equal. Even our Constitution recognized this fact, but in by gone years, the right of a woman to live equally with man had been ignored.
But the world is changing...Where many years before women were not allowed to join the Armed Forces of a country, now that had changed completely. We see more and more of our women hold ranks in higher echelons. However, in some other countries, women are treated still lower in ranks. Men still hold the tradition that shows superiority over women. But over time this will change. This Essay is a strong reminder if not a advocacy that "feminism" should not be treated unfairly. Women's inferiority rank would soon be over in the course of time. Thanks for sharing a beautiful piece of written commentary and philosophy. Dom.
Comment Written 20-Nov-2014
reply by the author on 20-Nov-2014
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We have a very strong foundation and most rights. the rest, as you say, will come. This week alone, the Anglican church changed their tenets to allow female bishops, a huge, historic step.
It is the third world countries that house the criminals against our gender--or at least the most fearsome. Thanks for reading.
Comment from Jean Lutz
As the mother of three sons, this has me applauding. And I did raise the three of them as a single mom who didn't get child support although I had a stack of court orders. I was not a feminist, but I have remained feminine and fully believe a woman can succeed by just doing what is right. Here in America that is. Recently I heard a top official with our government complaining about a remark being discriminatory to women. I almost yelled at the television screen -- "If you can't take the heat get back in the kitchen." Sadly some women can't handle the freedom they fought for. But those of us who are strong and free can take up the fight for the Meriams and Mahalas who are in a real battle. I haven't heard from Bundhoo for a while. I hope all is well with her.
reply by the author on 20-Nov-2014
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As the mother of three sons, this has me applauding. And I did raise the three of them as a single mom who didn't get child support although I had a stack of court orders. I was not a feminist, but I have remained feminine and fully believe a woman can succeed by just doing what is right. Here in America that is. Recently I heard a top official with our government complaining about a remark being discriminatory to women. I almost yelled at the television screen -- "If you can't take the heat get back in the kitchen." Sadly some women can't handle the freedom they fought for. But those of us who are strong and free can take up the fight for the Meriams and Mahalas who are in a real battle. I haven't heard from Bundhoo for a while. I hope all is well with her.
Comment Written 20-Nov-2014
reply by the author on 20-Nov-2014
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According to Judiverse, who posted an essay today she is back in school. Check out her post in her portfolio.
Thanks for the stars. Just a small comment. Women didn't lose their femininity by believing in equal rights, but the feminist label seemed to resonate as some ball-breaking butch in many people's evaluation of the movement.
Comment from boxergirl
It is amazing as I look back over the last 4 decades and see the changes in attitudes towards women but like you say, we still got a long way to go. And only with both men and women speaking up will we continue to see change. I just hope we don't get complacent.
reply by the author on 20-Nov-2014
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It is amazing as I look back over the last 4 decades and see the changes in attitudes towards women but like you say, we still got a long way to go. And only with both men and women speaking up will we continue to see change. I just hope we don't get complacent.
Comment Written 20-Nov-2014
reply by the author on 20-Nov-2014
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Right on, Sister. Thanks.
Comment from royowen
I would like to challenge you on one thing, how many wars do you know or name have been fought in the name of religion? WW1, WW2, Vietnam war, Korean War, Crimean war, War of independence, Civil war? Tell me if you can, most or maybe very few! Most of your work I would agree with, much has been gained, but from what I can remember, a great price has been paid, innocence for one, many innocent men have fallen victim to this advance, when independence is gained the loss of dignity, everybody loses! Blessings, Roy,
reply by the author on 20-Nov-2014
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I would like to challenge you on one thing, how many wars do you know or name have been fought in the name of religion? WW1, WW2, Vietnam war, Korean War, Crimean war, War of independence, Civil war? Tell me if you can, most or maybe very few! Most of your work I would agree with, much has been gained, but from what I can remember, a great price has been paid, innocence for one, many innocent men have fallen victim to this advance, when independence is gained the loss of dignity, everybody loses! Blessings, Roy,
Comment Written 20-Nov-2014
reply by the author on 20-Nov-2014
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I'm unclear as to your point regarding lost innocence and men falling victim to this advance--totally bewildered. It implies, whether you meant it or not, that men floundered when confronted with a educated self-sufficient partner. That somehow they remained strong only through the weakness of women.
As for the challenge, as a widow of a WW11 veteran, I am hardly diminishing the values and sacrifices made by soldiers. What comes to mind immediately is the on-going carnage brought on by the RELIGIOUS conflict between Palestine and Israel, not to mention the hundreds of years of Catholics fighting Protestants in Ireland, but why take my word for it? direct from Wikapedia, I enclose a list of religious wars as they existed in the same time frame as your references. Oh, and as for WW11--didn't Hitler have something against the Jews?
5 Religious conflict in the modern period
5.1 Palestine and Israel
5.2 Pakistan and India
5.3 Abyssinia - Somalia
5.4 Nigerian conflict
5.5 Buddhist uprising
5.6 Chinese conflict
5.7 Lebanese Civil War
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Religion is not the cause of wars men are! The vast majority of wars are not caused by religion, it is human greed and pride, I didn't want an argument but you haven't verified anything,I have two daughters a wife and a granddaughter. I am simply against people who revel in pride, and just simply biased one way or the other, and use falacious
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I just hate bias and fallacious argument to support your argument, even Germaine,Greer regreted the damage she had done men in general, there are two sexes on this planet, God created both as one person not two, I said you had many good points, but total bias sullied your article, I want equality too, but not at any price! Blessings, Roy.
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I'm responding to your one sentence and the challenge to name religious wars, which I felt was condescending.
Religion as an ideal, absolutely doesn't start a war and as the current examples of radicalized terrorists--both men and women--proves, it is singular and group interpretation of religious doctrine that causes war.
Having arrived at this mutual agreement, I will edit my essay to read--more wars are waged in the NAME of religion.
Thanks for reading my essay and your willingness to debate the issues.
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Killing people for their beliefs is hardly religious, it's just plain murder! The meaning of the word religion is adhering to a set of principles or rules, therefore feminism is a religion! As is anything that people adhere to!
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At no time did I sully men in this post. I have damaged no man, but I have certainly excelled in a male-dominated industry. I have succeeded, not by grinding my stilettos in some man's groin, but by consistently surpassing expectations.
In my journey, I was blessed with mentors who recognized my talent and helped me reach my goals and most, but not all were men.
I made it because I was strong enough to fight back against prejudice and predetermined expectation that I should stand in the shadows.
I'm not sure why my essay has evoked such negativity, and can only HOPE it is personal and NOT because I'm a woman.
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Can't you see that it's not a competition? If you do then bias and injustice will remain, equality is not having a better job, power, or position, it's being kind and preferring others before ourselves. We are equal. It has always been the same, every man woman and child is equal. You can't be equal by taking something, only by giving, Roy,
Comment from Jay Squires
Dynamic, Ingrid. Powerful. Intelligent and passionate in its delivery. It needed to be said. I'm glad we had you to say it.
In a book I have written in first draft, [Consider the more direct: "In the first draft of a book I've written," unless you mean something different.]
Although those three hundred girls disappeared into a Nigerian jungle have not been rescued, [Either add "and" after "jungle" or a "who" after "girls".]
we did not sit in silence, demanding that our political leaders protest and participate in delivering our contempt for the brutality. [Ingrid, I know what you are saying, but I feel this sentence can be
intensified with a slight modification: "...we did not sit in silence, BUT DEMANDED that ..." (Of course I'm not saying it should be in upper case, but was just emphasizing what I suggested changing). Anyway, just a thought.]
reply by the author on 20-Nov-2014
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Dynamic, Ingrid. Powerful. Intelligent and passionate in its delivery. It needed to be said. I'm glad we had you to say it.
In a book I have written in first draft, [Consider the more direct: "In the first draft of a book I've written," unless you mean something different.]
Although those three hundred girls disappeared into a Nigerian jungle have not been rescued, [Either add "and" after "jungle" or a "who" after "girls".]
we did not sit in silence, demanding that our political leaders protest and participate in delivering our contempt for the brutality. [Ingrid, I know what you are saying, but I feel this sentence can be
intensified with a slight modification: "...we did not sit in silence, BUT DEMANDED that ..." (Of course I'm not saying it should be in upper case, but was just emphasizing what I suggested changing). Anyway, just a thought.]
Comment Written 20-Nov-2014
reply by the author on 20-Nov-2014
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As always, your suggestions helped fine-tune my writing. Many thanks. ingrid
