Domestic Violence and Mass Hypocrisy
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Comment from Deniz22
This is a very strong, well stated opinion. Last I knew, its still legal to express one's views, however strong or even wrong for that matter. The judge and jury of public opinion may no longer be able to acquit or call "guilty" since they, not the witness's have been tampered with by the PC gurus/media. I, for one, appreciate your honesty and am at least 90% in agreement with you. Good job.
reply by the author on 04-Oct-2014
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This is a very strong, well stated opinion. Last I knew, its still legal to express one's views, however strong or even wrong for that matter. The judge and jury of public opinion may no longer be able to acquit or call "guilty" since they, not the witness's have been tampered with by the PC gurus/media. I, for one, appreciate your honesty and am at least 90% in agreement with you. Good job.
Comment Written 03-Oct-2014
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Thank you very much.
Comment from victor 66
Well, Lancellot, I'm not angry, but you're certainly 'jacked up". Man has always been the 'eternal hypocrite', it's in our nature.
I am curious though, what do the police do when they're called about a DV call and the consenting adults are involved in some sort of S & M? Or the cop during a DV intervention, restrains the man, but the woman stabs the policeman in the back in defense of her man? And, why do women trade one woman beater for another?
Yes, I probably would step between a man and women if I though the woman was being attacked. But who knows what the outcome would be? Almost everyone thinks there is a simple solution to so many incredibly involved issues, it's a wonder that things aren't worse than they are. Enough.
I think all your points are valid and worth addressing. I believe your piece is well organized, very direct and very well written. I wish you luck.
reply by the author on 04-Oct-2014
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Well, Lancellot, I'm not angry, but you're certainly 'jacked up". Man has always been the 'eternal hypocrite', it's in our nature.
I am curious though, what do the police do when they're called about a DV call and the consenting adults are involved in some sort of S & M? Or the cop during a DV intervention, restrains the man, but the woman stabs the policeman in the back in defense of her man? And, why do women trade one woman beater for another?
Yes, I probably would step between a man and women if I though the woman was being attacked. But who knows what the outcome would be? Almost everyone thinks there is a simple solution to so many incredibly involved issues, it's a wonder that things aren't worse than they are. Enough.
I think all your points are valid and worth addressing. I believe your piece is well organized, very direct and very well written. I wish you luck.
Comment Written 03-Oct-2014
reply by the author on 04-Oct-2014
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Thank you very much.
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You are most welcome.
Comment from mrsmajor
Hello,
I speak only for myself, knowing that I too will probably be scolded for my way of thinking....I do not condone, fighting between husband and wife, boyfriend, and girlfriend, or in any other case...violence is violence no matter the situation..and there can be no excuse.
I don't want to go into the Rice case, as much has already been discussed concerning that, but I will say this...Thank God what I am saying is not true, but just an example of what life is all about..I repeat I am using my own children as an example...they are not having any such problem...lol
I have 2 sons and a daughter...
My daughter is 5 ft 4 inches, and weights about 140 pounds...her husband is 6 ft 4 weighs about 220 pounds, (thin)...they both go to the gym, and they are well educated, and in professional jobs....
Would it be okay if during an argument, my son-in-law slaps my daughter's face, heck no!....but in the same instance would it be alright if in the argument, my daughter hauls of and slaps him in his face...heck no!
People seem to feel it's terrible for a man to hit a woman, but it is also terrible for a women to hit a man...I think of my sons, both of which are average in height and weight, one's wife is heavy, goes to the gym, is strong and actually larger then my son....should she be allowed to strike him, perhaps because she may not like what he says....It is said that he must walk away, not defend himself, I say she should learn to control herself...
I read something here, where it was alright for a man to hit his wife long ago and it was the wish that such would never return.....To me that was never allowed where I come from....never at all..
My point is this..there are some women that are as strong as any man, will pick up something and throw it, is this considered alright because she is a woman, indeed not in my opinion, and there is no question that any man should not in any way strike a woman...
I know there is the matter of being morally responsible, and some feel that the man must abide by that idea, perhaps so, but so should the woman...Let's be realistic, yes a man should walk away from an argument that may continue on into violence, but so should the woman, and if a man hits a woman, in his defense he is considered an animal, what about that woman, she could also walk away from violence...
I think this is a new day, both parties should learn to keep their hands in their pockets, but if a woman strikes a man with force, and please do not say that cannot happen, because it has.....and he does not strike back, she should be arrested, and the very same legal process be considered.
Needles to say, the same applies to him....let me ask this question does a man ever have the right to defend himself from an abusive woman...or should he walk away, hold his bloodied nose and do nothing...
Sorry I say he has the right to defend himself.....okay I know people will not like my post, but please think fairly....I'm an elderly woman, never touched by my husband, but never touched him either...
Thanks for writing this for us to consider, I agree with much of what you mention here...perhaps not all, but certainly most...I give this 6 stars for content, and mechanics..
Warmly,
Victoria
reply by the author on 04-Oct-2014
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Hello,
I speak only for myself, knowing that I too will probably be scolded for my way of thinking....I do not condone, fighting between husband and wife, boyfriend, and girlfriend, or in any other case...violence is violence no matter the situation..and there can be no excuse.
I don't want to go into the Rice case, as much has already been discussed concerning that, but I will say this...Thank God what I am saying is not true, but just an example of what life is all about..I repeat I am using my own children as an example...they are not having any such problem...lol
I have 2 sons and a daughter...
My daughter is 5 ft 4 inches, and weights about 140 pounds...her husband is 6 ft 4 weighs about 220 pounds, (thin)...they both go to the gym, and they are well educated, and in professional jobs....
Would it be okay if during an argument, my son-in-law slaps my daughter's face, heck no!....but in the same instance would it be alright if in the argument, my daughter hauls of and slaps him in his face...heck no!
People seem to feel it's terrible for a man to hit a woman, but it is also terrible for a women to hit a man...I think of my sons, both of which are average in height and weight, one's wife is heavy, goes to the gym, is strong and actually larger then my son....should she be allowed to strike him, perhaps because she may not like what he says....It is said that he must walk away, not defend himself, I say she should learn to control herself...
I read something here, where it was alright for a man to hit his wife long ago and it was the wish that such would never return.....To me that was never allowed where I come from....never at all..
My point is this..there are some women that are as strong as any man, will pick up something and throw it, is this considered alright because she is a woman, indeed not in my opinion, and there is no question that any man should not in any way strike a woman...
I know there is the matter of being morally responsible, and some feel that the man must abide by that idea, perhaps so, but so should the woman...Let's be realistic, yes a man should walk away from an argument that may continue on into violence, but so should the woman, and if a man hits a woman, in his defense he is considered an animal, what about that woman, she could also walk away from violence...
I think this is a new day, both parties should learn to keep their hands in their pockets, but if a woman strikes a man with force, and please do not say that cannot happen, because it has.....and he does not strike back, she should be arrested, and the very same legal process be considered.
Needles to say, the same applies to him....let me ask this question does a man ever have the right to defend himself from an abusive woman...or should he walk away, hold his bloodied nose and do nothing...
Sorry I say he has the right to defend himself.....okay I know people will not like my post, but please think fairly....I'm an elderly woman, never touched by my husband, but never touched him either...
Thanks for writing this for us to consider, I agree with much of what you mention here...perhaps not all, but certainly most...I give this 6 stars for content, and mechanics..
Warmly,
Victoria
Comment Written 03-Oct-2014
reply by the author on 04-Oct-2014
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Thank you very much.
You're quite welcome, it was my pleasure!
Comment from Joe_P
This is a very-well written and apparently well-researched piece. The author is obviously passionate about this subject and makes a very good argument.
reply by the author on 04-Oct-2014
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This is a very-well written and apparently well-researched piece. The author is obviously passionate about this subject and makes a very good argument.
Comment Written 03-Oct-2014
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Thank you very much.
Comment from chasennov
Let's talk about it. "Domestic Violence and Mass Hypocrisy" Well, they say there are things stranger than fiction that happen, and maybe this story relates to such conditions. Well done.
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Let's talk about it. "Domestic Violence and Mass Hypocrisy" Well, they say there are things stranger than fiction that happen, and maybe this story relates to such conditions. Well done.
Comment Written 03-Oct-2014
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You're welcome.
Comment from Giddy Nielsen-Sweep
P C is absolute hypocrisy and insanity in many cases and I am very sorry to say it is creeping out of your country and in to ours, no, not creeping, rushing headlong! We need more people like you with COMMON SENSE and I award you the 'common sense medal' of the year! Hope you win the competition, Giddy
reply by the author on 04-Oct-2014
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P C is absolute hypocrisy and insanity in many cases and I am very sorry to say it is creeping out of your country and in to ours, no, not creeping, rushing headlong! We need more people like you with COMMON SENSE and I award you the 'common sense medal' of the year! Hope you win the competition, Giddy
Comment Written 03-Oct-2014
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Thank you very much.
Comment from Mystic Angel 7777
This is a wonderful write and a very timely piece for the contest. I think you presented this in an extremely fair and unbiased manner which is commendable given all the emotional drama this particular situation has driven in the media. I did not see one comma out of place or one misspelled word and read it twice to be sure LOL. The second time is usually to make sure I was not so engaged in what I was reading that I forgot to be anal about punctuation. I wish you all the best in the judging and thank you so much for sharing this with me.
reply by the author on 04-Oct-2014
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This is a wonderful write and a very timely piece for the contest. I think you presented this in an extremely fair and unbiased manner which is commendable given all the emotional drama this particular situation has driven in the media. I did not see one comma out of place or one misspelled word and read it twice to be sure LOL. The second time is usually to make sure I was not so engaged in what I was reading that I forgot to be anal about punctuation. I wish you all the best in the judging and thank you so much for sharing this with me.
Comment Written 02-Oct-2014
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Comment from Winslow
Dear Lancellot,
I agree with you that both are guilty of violence and DV. What I don't agree with is your defense of Ray Price. He hit her once and will do it again. If he worked for 3M like I did he would be fired and prosecuted as he should be. Celebrities should be held to the same standard as Joe Blow.
I think any man that hits a woman is a coward.
Regards,
Winslow
reply by the author on 02-Oct-2014
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Dear Lancellot,
I agree with you that both are guilty of violence and DV. What I don't agree with is your defense of Ray Price. He hit her once and will do it again. If he worked for 3M like I did he would be fired and prosecuted as he should be. Celebrities should be held to the same standard as Joe Blow.
I think any man that hits a woman is a coward.
Regards,
Winslow
Comment Written 02-Oct-2014
reply by the author on 02-Oct-2014
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Thank you, Winslow. I didn't defend Ray for the crime. I said what he did was wrong many times, and he was prosecuted by the justice system, the same as any man.
I am glad you read and shared your thoughts with me.
Have a good one.
Lance
Comment from DSMalott
Wow.
Well said and succinctly argued. The average American has so little access to the public forum, so the loudest voices tend to be most ears; special interest groups, media outlets, those with political or monetary clout, etc.
They are both guilty; get them both help without ruining their lives.
Great job.
reply by the author on 02-Oct-2014
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Wow.
Well said and succinctly argued. The average American has so little access to the public forum, so the loudest voices tend to be most ears; special interest groups, media outlets, those with political or monetary clout, etc.
They are both guilty; get them both help without ruining their lives.
Great job.
Comment Written 02-Oct-2014
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Thank you very much.
Comment from livelylinda
lancellot: oh, you have rattled some bars here! You have a point but I would hate to see us go back to the days when men could easily get away with beating their wives - it was a family problem and left to the family which meant the wife suffered horribly. There are also women who beat their husbands, we know that, and that should not be either. However, when we look at Janay's size compared to Ray's size, build and strength, any hit from him (as we saw in the video), is going to hurt her. A little slap from him he will take like it is a mosquito bite. And, the way he half drug her out of the elevator, like an old ragdoll he no longer wanted, probably irked us the most. I cannot excuse his behavior. Good luck in the contest. livelylinda
reply by the author on 02-Oct-2014
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lancellot: oh, you have rattled some bars here! You have a point but I would hate to see us go back to the days when men could easily get away with beating their wives - it was a family problem and left to the family which meant the wife suffered horribly. There are also women who beat their husbands, we know that, and that should not be either. However, when we look at Janay's size compared to Ray's size, build and strength, any hit from him (as we saw in the video), is going to hurt her. A little slap from him he will take like it is a mosquito bite. And, the way he half drug her out of the elevator, like an old ragdoll he no longer wanted, probably irked us the most. I cannot excuse his behavior. Good luck in the contest. livelylinda
Comment Written 02-Oct-2014
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