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Suicide is Sacred

Free verse

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Comment from mrskristinball
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This is an exceptional poem and I would rate it a six, but I only have two left, so five is the next best thing;-)

My first impression of Suicide is Sacred is sadly hopeful; each and every life is sacred, holy, special, and unfortunately, when suicide is the reason for death, then this person is considered to no longer be that sacred being God created. Most people condemn and sentence the person to an eternity of selfishness, not knowing, or wanting to know, what led to this tragic choice. Your poem expresses the cultural truth that death by suicide is harshly judged and the person who dies by his own hand is harshly judged, too. However, you clearly forgive this sacred person with compassion and eloquently share this merciful love in your words of hope: "Finally free~unclipped wings to stars, Sacred reflection behind our sunrise." I don't think anyone ever thinks that he will be the cause of his own death, but the "whisper within the heart" holds the secret. There's much more I could say about your powerful poem, but I think I'll wrap it up with, Fantastic Work!

 Comment Written 09-Oct-2013


reply by the author on 09-Oct-2013
    Thank you. Truly. I'm glad you read it, and honored. This was an important piece to me. I think you really nailed it. So insightful. You understood perfectly. I just don't like to think of them being judged no one wants to die, they obviously fought. At least who I reference. But I just want to thank you, really thank you for an insightful and intelligent review.
Comment from teafor2
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GregoryCody--A day late and a dollar short: I finally read
one of your poems that provides an "old codger" with in-
sight/enlightenment.:) Your metaphoric title, graphic pic-
ture, elucidating author notes and pious theme complement
the alliteration which starts with the title and continue
through out the write (whisper within, built in boulders,
dragging down, slippery eels stealing, stained in stinging
tears drops to dirt, Cries cradled, dripping quickly down)
combine with metaphorics for the sufferings endured by the
surprised/confused/anger family. Scribe's treatment of a
controversial topic depicted personably. teafor2



 Comment Written 05-Oct-2013


reply by the author on 06-Oct-2013
    Wow this is a great review. You really got it. Thank you. I can tell you put effort into this. For that I am truly truly grateful. Thank you so much. Yes it was controversial but I'm glad I posted it. The response were good, made everyone including me, reflect, think. Got Well Received so that's good.
reply by teafor2 on 06-Oct-2013
    U R welcome.
Comment from emjaihammond
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Greg, I came upon this poem a little late, but I was so touched by it's heart felt message. I feel much the same. I think we want to blame suicide victims because we are angry we could not stop what happened, were not a good enough reason for them to stay. But, I think it is about stopping pain, not life. I think they can't be held accountable because of the huge affect pain has on their thinking, especially if you introduce alcohol and or drugs. We need to be more forgiving and less critical. Their families need our support. Thank you for presenting this personal piece. It has touched all of our lives in one way or another, and sooner or later. Sometimes we just fail to be able to overcome. Only God can help us then.

 Comment Written 01-Oct-2013


reply by the author on 01-Oct-2013
    Amen my friend. You, you have touched me with this review. I was so worried posting it at first. A couple were bothered, some wanted to debate, some told of their own stories and some like you, agreed. But everyone reflected on it. So I'm happy I posted it. Your review has especially touched me though too. It means a lot. It was ultimately a piece to stand up for a couple of close friends and really for all those that fought as hard as they could but just couldn't overcome the monster that is depression. Pain is relative and everyone has a different threshold. Its not for us to judge them. We just don't know what they felt. And yeah, I stand up for Kurt Cobain too. He wrote in his journals to God that he'd give away everything, give anything to make his addiction stop. He fought. I relate a lot to that. Not the mental addiction but the physical. Hard to explain. But I've seen some dangerous times. I would hope no one would blame me had I gone that route. But by the grace of God, literally by God carrying me, did I make it through. I thank Him everyday for that.

    I miss my friends and I hate the pain this world can bring. I'm so glad you could understand this poem. Actually thinking about it now, I knew you would. You're one of the people I look forward to seeing. I just hope the certificate was still up? I'm sorry if not. Really. Thank you so so much. So much.
Comment from Spitfire
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Your notes are true. Sometimes I watch movies and it seems that there is no other answer. You see it all in the images of stanza two. And the peacefulness that surrounds in stanza three. No one has the right to judge- stanza four. Hope in the end. Nicely penned.

 Comment Written 29-Sep-2013


reply by the author on 29-Sep-2013
    Thank you. Truly thank you. I was so annoyed this was only up on the Well Received for a few minutes if at all. I wanted it to get more exposure. Not for credit, just to have people think, mad at me or not for feeling this way. It was ultimately standing up for my friends and those who've passed away with blame pointed at them. You truly are a good, insightful and intelligent person. I was hoping you'd read this one. Thank you again. Really.
reply by Spitfire on 30-Sep-2013
    Yes, I think Tom is rotating front page more often. I get a notice and when I check it out, rarely find out. Thanks for the brilliant assessment of my character. LOL
reply by the author on 30-Sep-2013
    I think I got it right ;)
reply by the author on 30-Sep-2013
    He said he has no control over it. If its truly an algorithm that selects these pieces then last night I saw a billion to one anomaly. I have heard so much about politics from ppl on the site (some involved very deeply) but that's just not right. Or, it is just something else entirely and I shouldn't take it personally. Either way I'm over it. I was just a little sad about it quite honestly. Its okay though, no big thing.
Comment from Treischel
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A powerful perspective on suicide that took a courageous position form the point of view of the suffering souls driven by their pain to make that act of finality. Your free verse was excellent I was particularly impressed with these lines:

A face stained in stinging tears drops to dirt
Bedding frost-kissed, cools the florid taste of anger
Cries cradled to forever, sleeping in peace

 Comment Written 29-Sep-2013


reply by the author on 29-Sep-2013
    Thank you sincerely. Yeah I felt sick with worry when I posted it. I didn't want to offend. But its ultimately me standing up for some loved ones. Its how I feel. But yes thank you for complimenting the writing. It means a lot. Actually your whole review and the act that you read it means a lot. Thank you. Truly.
Comment from SteveY
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A very emotionally written pieceof work my friend. Great poetic expression. I believe that the suicidal person is seeking what everyone is seeking and that is "peace, happiness, and no suffering." They have given up on finding happiness, but maybe they will at least end their suffering or so they think. Ultimately they will be given another chance just like not passing a class in school, you simply have to retake the class until you pass it! No eternal punishment. How does that help a soul to grow or learn? We'll have to take the class again, pass it, and then get to wear the graduation crown!

 Comment Written 29-Sep-2013


reply by the author on 29-Sep-2013
    I like your take my friend. You have a good soul, no judgement by you. A truly good man. Thank you for reading. Really. I appreciate your thoughts always Steve. Look forward to them actually.
Comment from A TARNISHED KNIGHT
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This must be the week for suicide prose.. Think this is the 4th one I have read..Which btw yours is very good in deed...I am always courious as to what others write about when having lost someone to that dasterly deed. My mother one week before I was three committed the deed my son 13 yrs ago this week had done the same.. Think I might just have to sit right down and write my memories myself tonight..Sad topic you wrote about but a hell of good job doing so
TK

 Comment Written 28-Sep-2013


reply by the author on 29-Sep-2013
    Thank you for reading. First, I am so sorry. You poor soul. I can't imagine that pain. I'm so immensely sorry. My heart hurts for you. I'm so sorry, is all I keep saying. Truly. I actually wrote this bc I was inspired after speaking with Ravenblack. It angered me (his coworker, not him). Two of my best friends took their lives. I get angry at people with great lives or even not great, but that have never felt the depths life can take a person, that judge those who take their lives. Its Awful. Suicide is awful. But how can one know how deep that persons pain was. What if they just really really could not go on? What if they fought as are as humanly possible? I'm not speaking for everyone I suppose. But I knw my friend who died three years ago. He fought. He really fought. I'm so so immensely sorry for your loss again. This was not meant to offend at all. I truly hope it didn't offend you. You should write. I would be honored to read it if you felt like sharing?
    Also...I wrote this earlier.
    I wrote notes again. Sacred is not meant as "holy" at at all. I meant it in the sense of "personal". Suicide is Awful. I just wanted to defend some people. I hate when they place hate or blame on them. I just wanted to stand up for them.

    Thank you again for your review. Truly for reading and for sharing that with me. My heart and prayers go out to you, your mother, your son and you my friend. They do.
reply by A TARNISHED KNIGHT on 29-Sep-2013
    oh you did not ofend at all I was just amazed at all the writes at one time I have a couple posted on web site Think the latest was skeltons in my closet and the other called a cold December Day not completly about the deed but the effects it had on me and others TK
reply by the author on 29-Sep-2013
    I'm going to read them!
Comment from Dean Kuch
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From the nine-year old "chubby" girl , teased incessantly at school, to the thirty-something self-proclaimed prodigal son, who looses everything because of a nasty divorce, no one knows the depth of pain, heartache and intense sorrow those who decide to check out of life's party go through unless they've been there themselves. The only difference between those who do, and those who don't, is fate, luck, or divine intervention. Perhaps the gun they were going to use to do the deed misfired. Maybe their parents came home unexpectedly, interrupting them in the middle of the act. Suicide is a horrible tragedy, and it deeply affects the loved ones who were left behind to wonder, "Why?".

It is not our place to sit in judgment, or claim that they're damned to hell's fire. There's someone with shoulders far broader than ours who decides those things. All we can do is honor their memory, and look more carefully if we should suspect someone else that we know might be contemplating the same thing...

Great verse, Gregory. I wish you all the best in this contest!

 Comment Written 28-Sep-2013


reply by the author on 29-Sep-2013
    Thank you so much Dean. Your opinion matters an immense deal to me. You actually stated everything perfectly, no surprise. You're insightful and know personally. You are so spot on with your explanation man really. I feel the same way. You worded it greatly. Divine intervention is key I think. No one knows the pain or the circumstances. Pain is all relative. Suicide is awful, horrible. But honor their memories and respect that they did not want to cause pain, quite the opposite. We can't judge them. That's not our role. I hope my poem doesn't get too misinterpreted. It was meant to defend two of my best friends ultimately. And its personal to me as I've been very close to that road, this year even. But God saves me. With me everyday. I know I'm blessed and I'm grateful always. Thank you Dean.
reply by Dean Kuch on 29-Sep-2013
    You are always welcome, my friend...
Comment from poesyapprentice
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Hello, sweetheart. How are you doing? Any better?

This poem scares me a bit because those who suffer from depression do not need to think of it as an ok way to deal with their pain. Not because they will go to hell as so many believe, as this is not biblical, but because it can become too "easy" an out when there may be hope yet to be had thru other means. Having said that, I consider you brave to put your contradictory views out there for others to read and comment on, and I completely understand that you would still love one who took his own life. You are coming from a place that refuses to judge, to lay full blame on one who has suffered so, from a place of deep compassion. It is so like you, dear friend.

My nephew and my step-grandson both committed suicide at the age of fifteen, and my uncle also did so when I was a child, so I'm very familiar with the suffering of those left behind...pain, guilt, anger, confusion... What one must remember when thinking of the ones who left us is that their intention was not to cause us such agony, but rather that they were so deep in their own agony that they could not see past it. What a horrible place to be, without any hope, submerged in a pain so horrible that even the suffering of our loved ones can't matter enough to stay our own end!

I have lived thru some very dark and horrible times since I became an adult and thinking of my children and my own mother has kept me from attempting to end my life to escape what I was enduring, but that doesn't mean that I am less selfish than those who did take their life, it means to me that the pain of those who did must have been greater still, that they were further into the darkness than even I, and how I pity them!

When loved ones left behind see the person who took their life as selfish because of the pain they caused them then they aren't seeing the irony of that. They can't see beyond their own pain to truly consider that of the one who died and yet are angry and hurt because the one who died could not see beyond their pain enough to consider theirs.

I believe you are proud of those who fought, even though they lost the battle, because you know how hard it is to fight serious depression, as do I. Your poem was full of great imagery as always, unique and special. Your flow was excellent as well. No one could honestly deny your talent, my friend. If not for the "book" I've already written here I would go into further detail about this wonderful write, and I hope you forgive me both. Many blessings to you! Please don't give up the fight!! xx

 Comment Written 28-Sep-2013


reply by the author on 29-Sep-2013
    Hi there. Its good to hear from you. Warms my heart a bit, like I don't feel so alone on here. Its so nice to know you know me, That I know you. First off let me tell you, I am BLOWN AWAY. You have explained Perfectly, my thoughts on this subject. I mean so well. Better than I am able to. Seriously. I didn't feel my words until I read them here. I actually thought, "Wow, she said that better than I could have". Thats hard to do to me! You are a writer. You are a Great writer with a brilliant mind. So deep, so incredibly insightful.

    "...What one must remember when thinking of the ones who left us is that their intention was not to cause us such agony, but rather that they were so deep in their own agony that they could not see past it. What a horrible place to be, without any hope, submerged in a pain so horrible that even the suffering of our loved ones can't matter enough to stay our own end!..."

    "...When loved ones left behind see the person who took their life as selfish because of the pain they caused them then they aren't seeing the irony of that. They can't see beyond their own pain to truly consider that of the one who died and yet are angry and hurt because the one who died could not see beyond their pain enough to consider theirs..."

    WOW. So true. Such powerful words. You got exactly how I feel. And yes, I am proud of them. Two of my best friends took their lives. One just three years ago, the other in 2001 in college. The last one really messed me up. He was like a brother. The last conversation we had, a couple weeks before it, he was actually helping to cheer ME up. He was giving me life pointers, etc. it crushed me when tey called to tell me he was gone. It still does, I get teary eyed now. It took three years to even try to write something about it. Its a poem. Its too much to share hear, too important for a post. But maybe a contest or reading it aloud, somewhere it would be visible or accessible to many. Not to hear credit, etc. but to have people reflect on him, on my friend, my family. I'd like to share it with you though if you'd like? Ill message you. You don't have to though of course.

    This poem tonight was to stand up for him, for my other friend, for all those who lost but fought as hard as they could against that monster we both know. To stand up fr them when people hate or blame them. They didn't Want to die! They didn't Want to be tortured. The opposite! They fought, they just didn't make it all the way. Well, he is in heaven. Its weird, I'm telling you, on another note, I used to have recurring dreams after hs death. I'd meet up with him at his cemetery and we woud just walk around the town in silence. Everything was gray. Zero color. No sadness but no happiness. No anything. It scared the crap out of me. It was a description of purgatory to me in every detail. I hated it. It hurt me to think of him there. Before I wrote his poem, I prayed hard to God and him, to give me the right words, to not fall short or make him sound bad or not good enough. Really to not fall short on my tribute to him ultimately. It took three years to start and two hours to write. I'm telling you (not At All saying this about the quality or talent, etc. on my part) but I wasn't writing it alone. There were deeper meanings, things I caught afterwards, there were things I didn't even realize at first. After I finished I prayed. I was worried. I read it to my wife. I couldn't get through it, I just kept breaking down. But two days later, a wedding present came in the mail. It was from his parents. One Year after our wedding. When I saw the card I just cried. Not out of sadness but a feeling came over me (my essay on my Journey to God and the spiritual significance of coincidences). He was okay. He was happy. He had heard me. Was with me. That was this Summer, three years after his death. A couple of weeks or a month later, it was recently, I had a dream. We were sitting in a bright bright place. I'm telling you he was So happy. That's all I can remember. His smile and how bright it was there. I'm not crazy, I approach things logically. I have no explanation for any of this but that I Know he's in heaven, I know he's okay.

    I'm sorry to go on like that. You just really moved me and I felt safe to share. You got me crying for the first time tonight after writing this piece and hearing people discuss it, debate it, etc. now, after your words, after this talk, I feel like its good I wrote it. I was sick about it before. But I realize now that its made me think of him, feel good about him, talk about him. That's reason enough. Thank you, my dear friend, my kindred spirit, really, for making ths happen for me. You've touched me really deeply by your words, by allowing me this opportunity to reflect, to talk about it.

    Thank you. Thank you. So much. You have such an amazing heart. No matter how bad I feel, remember I am just an email away if you need me. Always.
reply by poesyapprentice on 29-Sep-2013
    I nearly got finished with a reply to your heartwarming reply to me and I hit the wrong button and it deleted it all, so i begin anew. You have touched me so! I'm deeply honored by all you shared with me and of course you can send your special write to me!! It is humbling to know you would entrust it to me. Thank you so very much. To know that I have helped you in some way is the greatest of blessings to me! Again, I thank you. I don't think you are crazy at all, sweetie, and I am so happy that you now have assurance and peace that your friend is happy at last. I'm happy that you now feel good about your post, too. I am sure you have needed to get some things out for so very long and to be a part of that is special. You are special, dear one. I want to read the article you mentioned as well. I believe all things happen for a purpose, even when we do not understand the why's. I believe someday we will see it all clearly, if not in this life, then in the next. When you wrote earlier of not realizing things you had written until after you had read them back, I totally understand that. Tonight after i read your poem, it was only as I wrote those things you quoted back to me that they became a reality for me. You gave a perspective I had not previously considered and I became "enlightened" as I stroked the keys. They were a gift to me, a gift to share with you. I have been told many times that I am an insightful person but truly I simply listen and can't take credit for the ways my brain works, for the connections I "draw". I was made to be able to see things from unique perspectives, I suppose. I am not sure how to best make use of these abilities. It is something I have been pondering much of late, especially as I am trying to decide what can be done to improve my financial stability. It is a story for another time, my friend, but thank you so much for those kind words. They all mean so very much to me. Please email or PM whatever you wish. I have been restricted on time quite a bit as of late, but it was so wonderful to spend this time with you and I'm so looking forward to hearing from you again. Blessings to you! xx
reply by the author on 29-Sep-2013
    You are more than insightful. You have such a good soul. I'm so glad to have found you. Really. Thank you for caring and thinking of me. It helps. I hope your financial stability betters. Rama will reward you, God will reward you and take care of you. I promise. I promise. You're gonna be good. It sounds like an easy thing to say but I mean t.

    The essay is The Conversation. I thought I shared it but perhaps not. I hate to push it. Its just my journey, a logical approach.
reply by poesyapprentice on 29-Sep-2013
    You are just the sweetest! You are such a blessing to me! You mentioned Rama as God and I'm unfamiliar with this name. Will you tell me of it, of your beliefs? You are so very interesting to me, and I mean that! I am drawn to you, to the gentleness of your spirit, and to your special uniqueness which warms me when we talk and makes my heart smile. Please do not feel that you are being pushy at all. I don't feel that from you and I have a genuine interest in your writings. Could you send the essay to me via PM or email please? I couldn't find it in the portfolio. I just want you to be comfortable about whatever you send to me, especially those private ones you hold so close. I'm here and welcoming to whatever it is if you desire in your heart to share it, my friend. Sometimes when we correspond I feel almost as if I am talking in the mirror, so easy it is to connect with you and where you are coming from. : ) You don't have to thank me for anything. The pleasure is mine. Speak soon and til then take care. Mxx
reply by the author on 29-Sep-2013
    Oh hmm, I'm not sure. Oh maybe I said Rama Davi on this site? She's a friend and shes good for sure. I wouldn't say God but yes she is good ;) really though I'm guessing it was a typo. I write on my ipad. I do that often so Im sorry if that was confusing. I have a close relationship with God in the route of Christianity. Took some traveling but I found Him or rather He found me. I'd be honored to share it. Its a bit long maybe. So don't feel obligated. A few pages. Its called The Conversation. Its not allowing me to paste it. Hmm. Its like the first piece I posted here in May. If you go to my portfolio and just click to the last page it should be there. Its just my story and more of a logical approach from the point of view of someone who didn't just blindly accept it without thinking or finding it for themselves. From the point of view of someone who didn't see life so "happily" as those others did. Nothing wrong with them just different. You'll see. Truly, I am honored and always look forward to seeing your name. I feel the same way about you you btw.
Comment from country ranch writer
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people who die from suicide has troubled me for a lot of reasons, so much could be avoided but it seems people listen to them but we just aren't hearing them or feeling their pain. So much goes on in ones life RIGHT UNDER OUR NOSES AND WE DO NOT HAVE A CLUE WHAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH.

 Comment Written 28-Sep-2013


reply by the author on 29-Sep-2013
    That's so true. So very true. Its so sad. I hate the pain in the world. We don't know. Thank you for reading. And for the review, thank you.

    I wrote notes again. Sacred is not meant as "holy" at at all. I meant it in the sense of "personal". Suicide is Awful. I just wanted to defend some people. I hate when they place hate or blame on them. I just wanted to stand up for them.
reply by country ranch writer on 30-Sep-2013
    AMEN, THEY DO NEED DEFENDING BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND