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nor84


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RE: Hypocrisy...
Reply on November 17, 2017 11:44 PM
Three stars once meant "off to a good start," but now it means "below average." Has anyone else noticed that there is no average? The stars indicate below average or excellent - and that's it. Six stars are handed out like candy for work that has numerous errors, and that's a shame.


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RE: Hypocrisy...
Reply on November 18, 2017 01:47 AM << Modifed November 18 at 1:49AM >>
Honesty and factualness are two different things. We had by far our most stellar one star reviewer here a while ago. Fully 40% of her reviews were one stars and all of what she referred to as honest ratings were either factually incorrect or bigoted opinion. It was impossible to determine at that point if she was hypocritical or if she just didn't know the truth. I think of hypocrisy as knowing the truth but contriving virtue or goodness while concealing a fundamentally deceitful character. To be fair I thought perhaps she really did perceive herself as being "honest" and simply didn't understand her blunt, abusive reviews were hurting people. I gave her the benefit of the doubt and gentle guidance on the art of writing constructive reviews. Reminding her that just because we think something is true does not mean it is true so always check your motivations. If something has really angered you it's likely best not to review. Some things we learn from experience.

She insisted I was wrong and she was just being honest. Then this sweet little old lady began to publicly complain about being persecuted because of her honesty. Her use of the key words "honest reviews" triggered congratulations and kudos for her courage. Had these congratulators checked her reviews, they would've seen for themselves they were neither kind, nor factual, and were in truth one star, one-line brutal indictments on content she vehemently opposed. She finally relented and employed different and equally deceitful methods to gain attention and with some success I might add. You've got to give the devil his dues.

My main point is that honesty has degenerated into subjective opinion in the eyes of the reviewer. To add to the conundrum some people see writers with different world views as attacking them personally, which in addition to being incredibly frustrating is a total misrepresentation of the facts. In my view honesty is a word that has no meaning anymore because it has been utterly abused by the unscrupulous, hypocritical and uniformed. Believe me! Hypocrisy is the new honesty.

So when these folks tell you they want honest reviews what they really want is for you to tell them how incredibly brilliant they are, because in their mind that's only honest, right?


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RE: Hypocrisy...
Reply on November 18, 2017 02:00 AM
That's pretty much what I was getting at, Gloria - except you've put it a lot more eloquently.

I'm sure I've seen either in comments or instructions here somewhere that to be "honest", you should give low ratings to work you don't like.

There's lots of work I have difficulty in "liking", because it might express opinions I don't share, or even find offensive. That doesn't mean I'll give it a 1 or 2 because the subject matter doesn't appeal to me. It might still get a five or six if I think the quality of writing is excellent. At worst, I'll just close it without reviewing if I feel it's something I really can't relate to.

I suppose we are all inclined to subconsciously favour work that appeals to our own tastes to some extent - that's one thing; but trashing someone else's work because they dare to express a different opinion on something is another matter.



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RE: Hypocrisy...
Reply on November 18, 2017 02:18 AM

I'm not really talking about trashing peoples' work.

Facts aren't what they used to be either. They change too. You know... 9 planets? Flat earth? One moon? Sun revolves around us? They all used to be facts...

Gloria is correct though. Honest means 'agreeing with me' or 'seeing no wrong' it seems in many cases.

I got this response the other day, I'm paraphrasing now -

I left this work vague to allow for interpretation... but you misunderstood it.

That's one of my personal favourites.

There's also the people who really dislike it because you give a four star. Others say the same things but rate a five and that's okay because the precious stars are intact. Or because you've given a few fours or less than stellar reviews when everyone else does. You know the ones - guilty of believing their own press (we've all been there). The ones who have outgrown critique because of response and/or position.

Or the ones that think because they've been here a while, they know better and you should listen to them because they are TELLING you, not suggesting...

Anyway-

If you don't want it, don't ask for it.
If you do get it, don't moan about it.




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RE: Hypocrisy...
Reply on November 18, 2017 11:13 AM
You are absolutely right, Gman. But as Gloria pointed out so well, honesty in this case is grossly overrated. Sometimes it passes for being hateful and getting revenge for a review you may have given they didn't like.

My favorite response is 'you're one of three who pointed this out. Everyone else said how great it is.' So, three honest reviews must be wrong.

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RE: Hypocrisy...
Reply on November 18, 2017 05:06 PM
Oh yeah, the "everyone else liked it" reply. Well, maybe everyone else can't write or doesn't care about grammar and punctuation. I'm reviewing to help people improve their craft, and I may also "like" the story, but it needs help.

   
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