Escaping the straitjacket
Not quite a sonnet44 total reviews
Comment from Gloria ....
Well I think this is great good fun, and also full of import too. I am certain, estory, who first brought this to my attention, will be thrilled others have taken up the cause.
I like rap, blue grass and contemporary, as long as it is as good as this.
Now how to review such innovation?
Gloria
reply by the author on 22-Nov-2020
Well I think this is great good fun, and also full of import too. I am certain, estory, who first brought this to my attention, will be thrilled others have taken up the cause.
I like rap, blue grass and contemporary, as long as it is as good as this.
Now how to review such innovation?
Gloria
Comment Written 21-Nov-2020
reply by the author on 22-Nov-2020
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How to review it? Well, six stars was a good start!
Rap moved too fast for me to hear the words, so it mostly goes over the top of my head.
Glad you enjoyed the humour.
All good wishes, Tony
Comment from Bill Pinder
I appreciate this humorous writing about new forms of sonnets. Your comment led me to go to the forum and read what you were talking about. Great job with your humor and creativity. Bill
reply by the author on 22-Nov-2020
I appreciate this humorous writing about new forms of sonnets. Your comment led me to go to the forum and read what you were talking about. Great job with your humor and creativity. Bill
Comment Written 21-Nov-2020
reply by the author on 22-Nov-2020
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Thanks, Bill. I appreciate the sixth star. Glad you enjoyed the humour.
All good wishes, Tony
Comment from Kerri Bunnelle
I really enjoyed this. Although I am younger, I always believed I was born in the wrong time. I appreciate the older ways of doing things. Especially when it comes to writing; and you just don't see it too often anymore.
reply by the author on 22-Nov-2020
I really enjoyed this. Although I am younger, I always believed I was born in the wrong time. I appreciate the older ways of doing things. Especially when it comes to writing; and you just don't see it too often anymore.
Comment Written 21-Nov-2020
reply by the author on 22-Nov-2020
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Thanks for your review, Kerri. Appreciated. The old days probably weren't all they are cracked up to be. The grass is always greener...
However, there's a lot to be enjoyed in some of the older writers and sometimes a little to be learnt.
Comment from karenina
Hmmm. I don't read the Forum much...but I can imagine the grousing and complaining of what a sonnet is and is not. There are strict rules and yet without some scholarship on the matter the rules are broken... Fine, if you will, but then call it "rap"--not a "sonnet/updated"-- So many of the traditional poetry forms have become a bare bones skeleton upon which free wheeling "poets" drip and drape their words as they please. It's poetry, I suppose...but it is NOT true to form and tradition.--Karenina
reply by the author on 22-Nov-2020
Hmmm. I don't read the Forum much...but I can imagine the grousing and complaining of what a sonnet is and is not. There are strict rules and yet without some scholarship on the matter the rules are broken... Fine, if you will, but then call it "rap"--not a "sonnet/updated"-- So many of the traditional poetry forms have become a bare bones skeleton upon which free wheeling "poets" drip and drape their words as they please. It's poetry, I suppose...but it is NOT true to form and tradition.--Karenina
Comment Written 21-Nov-2020
reply by the author on 22-Nov-2020
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Thanks for your comments, karenina. I scarcely ever read the forums, but I thought the sonnet discussion quite a good one. I tend to agree with you that warping the traditional forms out of shape doesn't do them any great service. They have largely stood the test of time. My offering was tongue-in-cheek, of course - what might aptly be called a fake sonnet these days.
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I got the tongue in cheek wit...clever you! I do agree that a little liberty may be clever but if a sonnet is bent out of shape it seems to me to be no longer a sonnet!--Karenina
Comment from dragonpoet
Tony,
It seems this is a little class on the sonnet. Though it seems you don't like being constrained by the rules of any kind of sonnet. This shows you innovate by making it aabb ccdd eeff gg instead of abab cdcd efef gg.
Joan
reply by the author on 22-Nov-2020
Tony,
It seems this is a little class on the sonnet. Though it seems you don't like being constrained by the rules of any kind of sonnet. This shows you innovate by making it aabb ccdd eeff gg instead of abab cdcd efef gg.
Joan
Comment Written 21-Nov-2020
reply by the author on 22-Nov-2020
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Thanks, Joan. This was just a bit of fun, sending up strange perversions of classic poetic forms. What one might call a fake sonnet.
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No problme, Tony. I like your fake sonnet. Then all my sonnets are fake sonnets. Because most aren't all in iambic pentatmeter. Though I follow the rest of the rules.
Joan
Comment from LisaMay
Straightjackets are for crazy people. It's crazy not to experiment and challenge oneself as a writer, or else where is the creativity? I admire your breaking the bonds of the accepted sonnet tradition to give us an inspirational fresh approach with a message of exhortation to not merely ape others.... 'breaking the mould' (as in neglected old fungus).
reply by the author on 22-Nov-2020
Straightjackets are for crazy people. It's crazy not to experiment and challenge oneself as a writer, or else where is the creativity? I admire your breaking the bonds of the accepted sonnet tradition to give us an inspirational fresh approach with a message of exhortation to not merely ape others.... 'breaking the mould' (as in neglected old fungus).
Comment Written 21-Nov-2020
reply by the author on 22-Nov-2020
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I like your description of breaking the mould. Fits me to a T! LOL
Unless you're prepared to stretch the envelope a bit, you're never going to make much progress. My view, anyway.
All good wishes, Tony
Comment from BethShelby
This is definitely not an Shakespearian sonnet. There is something to be said for being an individual and breaking out of the mold. i like the way you kept changing direction in the middle of line. As writers we ought to be creative enough to not be confided to rules made by others so many decades ago. Today young people don't care for their parents music. Probably not their parents poetry either.
reply by the author on 22-Nov-2020
This is definitely not an Shakespearian sonnet. There is something to be said for being an individual and breaking out of the mold. i like the way you kept changing direction in the middle of line. As writers we ought to be creative enough to not be confided to rules made by others so many decades ago. Today young people don't care for their parents music. Probably not their parents poetry either.
Comment Written 21-Nov-2020
reply by the author on 22-Nov-2020
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Ha! Ha! I'm not sure I care for their poetry much, either - and certainly not for their music! Thanks for your review. All good wishes, Tony
Comment from Mrs. KT
Kudos, Tony!
I not only embrace your form and point, but what I truly appreciate is the following final couplet:
Don't ape others, monkey around instead;
innovate on old themes, then you'll be read.
I like the thought of "monkeying around" with old forms and themes.
(We'll see how well I've accomplished this tomorrow.)
It's so important to me, as a writer and teacher, to look at traditional forms and experiment. That's one of the reasons I love to create Haikus in fewer than 17 syllables =keeps me sharp.
Wish I had six stars, Tony!
This one is a gem!
Thank you!
diane
reply by the author on 22-Nov-2020
Kudos, Tony!
I not only embrace your form and point, but what I truly appreciate is the following final couplet:
Don't ape others, monkey around instead;
innovate on old themes, then you'll be read.
I like the thought of "monkeying around" with old forms and themes.
(We'll see how well I've accomplished this tomorrow.)
It's so important to me, as a writer and teacher, to look at traditional forms and experiment. That's one of the reasons I love to create Haikus in fewer than 17 syllables =keeps me sharp.
Wish I had six stars, Tony!
This one is a gem!
Thank you!
diane
Comment Written 21-Nov-2020
reply by the author on 22-Nov-2020
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Love your review and virtual six! I shall look forward to reading your piece of monkeying around!
Comment from Sugarray77
A great sonnet and so very clever, Tony. Your lovely, impressive words, add gild to this poetic art and we all walk away filled with lovely classicism and current jive! I love the blend of old and new. Well done.
Melissa
reply by the author on 22-Nov-2020
A great sonnet and so very clever, Tony. Your lovely, impressive words, add gild to this poetic art and we all walk away filled with lovely classicism and current jive! I love the blend of old and new. Well done.
Melissa
Comment Written 21-Nov-2020
reply by the author on 22-Nov-2020
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Thanks, Melissa. So glad you enjoyed the mix. All good wishes, Tony
Comment from Mary Vigasin
Good comment Tony on the true art of writing and not the jumble of words set to a beat and admired as poetic.
I enjoyed how your own offbeat sonnet brought this to this reader.
Always enjoy your writing and perspective
Mary
reply by the author on 22-Nov-2020
Good comment Tony on the true art of writing and not the jumble of words set to a beat and admired as poetic.
I enjoyed how your own offbeat sonnet brought this to this reader.
Always enjoy your writing and perspective
Mary
Comment Written 21-Nov-2020
reply by the author on 22-Nov-2020
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Thanks, Mary. What affirming words! A jumble of words is a good description of much that passes for verse - certainly not the best words in the best order.