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RE: Elon Musk-Freedom of Speech
That's not true. Twitter blocked Babylon Bee from writing SATIRE.


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RE: Elon Musk-Freedom of Speech
I think it would be quite an honour to receive the Man of the Year award. And should FanStory choose to bestow that honour upon myself, I would gratefully trade it in for member dollars. :))

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RE: Elon Musk-Freedom of Speech
Babylon Bee may have thought it was satire. Twitter obviously though it was hateful speech. They blocked it for 12 hours - with the countdown starting after the offending tweet was taken down. BB refused to take it down so the block continues.

I don't know anything about BB but apparently they are well known for making fun of transgender people. Some even claim it's their only joke.

Of course I know that social media sites flag or block posts for other reasons than planning and committing crimes. Read the sub-text - the people who complain here about Twitter (and celebrate Elon Musk's purchase of it) are laser focused on Trump and the right wing cronies who have been banned. Those accounts were closed for dangerous rhetoric potentially leading to criminal activity.

Sheesh!


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RE: Elon Musk-Freedom of Speech
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I don't know anything about BB but apparently they are well known for making fun of transgender people. Some even claim it's their only joke.

Utter nonsense. I don't recall seeing any such jokes on their site, but since being trans is in now, it seems like fair game to make fun of them along with everyone else.

the people who complain here about Twitter (and celebrate Elon Musk's purchase of it) are laser focused on Trump and the right wing cronies who have been banned.

That is true. Now, we are talking about two or three whack jobs on this forum whose opinions are unimportant. Harambe is more concerned about the banning of democratic and other rights advocates demanded by the authorities in various countries. Unfortunately, based on recent comments made by Musk, it looks likely that this censorship will continue as he defines acceptable "free speech" as speech that is censored beyond what the law requires. What's the point in operating so-called free speech in a country where it is anything but that? Maybe it is better to be blocked and let people in those countries access it using VPN. This is where I am interested in Steve's perspective, since he is inside China, I think.

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RE: Elon Musk-Freedom of Speech
Still chuckling at the free speech advocates complaining that Musk is being bullied.

Seems free speech only applies to one side. No surprises there!

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RE: Elon Musk-Freedom of Speech
Worth reading - article by Robert Reich.

https://robertreich.substack.com/p/when-billionaires-talk-about-freedom?r=1b1pnk&s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&fbclid=IwAR1mBJfc22HE-297-aAIbIHYvnZ0U_e4rLl5MjDaaxTdu76bFpE2hyKcx1Q

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RE: Elon Musk-Freedom of Speech
biden and his cult are going crazing
over Twitter and Truth media sites...
they can't stand the people now have freedom
to post and speak what they want to say...
The TRUTH...

the sick thing about biden and his satanic
cult is...all the crap they have done to America
and the people...they do it in plan sight...
they don't even care people know what their doing...
because...their getting away with it...




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RE: Elon Musk-Freedom of Speech
It's not more complex than that at all, Steve. We have all been told by certain people that the existing Twitter is left - biased, anti free speech, etc. It's not at all. It has rules of behaviour like any other space in life, virtual or actual. Unlike many actual spaces, there's a lot you can say on Twitter that you wouldn't say in real life. It can be a toxic space, but that is frankly, still down to personal engagement.

The right are telling you it's something it isn't and you have listened. Musk won't change it because he won't need to. The demographic on Twitter is, as you have stated, possibly going to change because people are leaving without even waiting to see what happens. So that change is on them.

But, if they had stayed they would have exactly the same personal ability to block, unfollow or whatever anyone they don't agree with.

It's not hard to keep away from the nutters. It really isn't. You don't have to even use Twitter.

Why do we all know about Trump's tweets? Because every media outlet republished them. The majority of negative stuff on Twitter goes unchecked because it's an average Joe noone cares about. My mate got banned because he made a nuisance of himself on other people's feeds. He now thinks social media is some Right Wing plot.

It's neither right, nor left, never has been. It's a collection of personal spaces and what you see there is entirely down to your own pattern of behaviour.

Musk doesn't give two hoots about free speech, but he wants you to believe he's doing this for everyone's good because he's part of the con that tells people Twitter is biased. It isn't. Individual users are, and they may make sure they are heard across the platform by volume of followers, but it's still your choice to engage.

It is that simple.

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RE: Elon Musk-Freedom of Speech
Emma, you are right about what you say, but wrong about what I thought of it.

Where I differ from you in this is what Musk can do with it.

And your final comment that Musk doesn't care about free speech is probably wrong as well.

Of course it won't be that much of a change apart from a few high profile people who will get their accounts back. Lets see what Liar of the Century does when it eventually trickles through to his tiny brain that Truth Social is a failure and he needs the giant megaphone that Twitter gives him.

He has till only posted one feeble 'truth' on Truth Social!


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RE: Elon Musk-Freedom of Speech
Isn't it a bit early to be calling someone the anything of the century? Remember about a hundred years ago they were talking about "the war to end all wars"? We will probably not find out definitively unless someone figures out time travel pretty soon.

   
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