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Regarding your carefully manicured list of comparisons: Trump didn't pee on his secret service agents or raise inflation (perhaps the two most important measures of public and private etiquette by a President). He didn't stuff a ballot box or kill tens of thousands of American soldiers in a foreign war. He didn't molest women, take a shit, or constantly drop the n-bomb during staff meetings. Both he and LBJ were fanatically obsessed with loyalty though LBJ probably moreso in the dictatorial sense. I brought up your hero mainly over the latter point.
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"Trump didn't pee on his secret service agents"
Neither did LBJ.
"or raise inflation"
Yes, he did.
"He didn't stuff a ballot box"
No, he just asked a Secretary of State to "find" him enough votes to win, asked his VP not to certify the vote representing the will of the people, and continues an idiotic lie to this day about losing the election.
"He didn't molest women"
Hahahaha! See above.
"Both he and LBJ were fanatically obsessed with loyalty"
The difference being that Trump demands personal loyalty and LBJ demanded loyalty to his agenda, which was VERY different from Trump's. LBJ didn't have anywhere near Trump's track record in firing and publicly humiliating those he considered "disloyal", or just didn't like.
So while neither seem to have particularly nice personalities, you've only added to Trump's odious list of flaws there.
The other point is, so what?
Let's assume what is not the case -- that LBJ was inept and despicable as Trump in every way -- how is this relevant? Johnson is dead. I really don't care how awful you think he was. What the world has to deal with now is Trump.
That's why it's rather silly when you bring up Obama, Biden, Clinton, etc. They are past history. Whatever good or bad they might have done (and none of them could hold a candle to Trump in the "despicable" stakes) doesn't matter. "Oh, but you don't say horrible things about them...." Well you don't hear us saying horrible things about either of the Bushes or Reagan either. We don't live in the past.
The US needs to put an end to this dictator before he wreaks irreversible damage, if it's not already too late.
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This is yet another amazing display of breaking the rules:
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I can't read all of this because there is a stupid ad in the way (probably why I thought you had deleted some material earlier). But the historical part matters because Johnson was able to push through a lot more than Trump largely due to holding a supermajority. You are simply ignorant to refer to Trump as a dictator in terms of his limited power and longevity. He will continue to have influence after he is gone, just like all those who proceeded him.
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Limited power?
He simply steamrolls any part of the constitution, any laws, any court that gets in the way of whatever his latest hair-brained scheme is, and does what he likes.
How is that limited?
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Please lay out in precise terms how Trump has steamrolled the Constitution.
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"Please lay out in precise terms how Trump has steamrolled the Constitution."
Very well.
Regarding Trump’s trampling of the US Constitution:
Exhibit 1:
Article 1, Section 9, Clause 8
No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.
1. Trump Retained Ownership of His Businesses
• While Trump handed daily management of the Trump Organization to his sons, he did not divest from his businesses. He continued to profit from them through a trust set up for his benefit. These businesses included hotels, golf clubs, and licensing deals, some of which received payments from foreign governments.
2. Foreign Government Patronage of Trump Properties
• During his presidency, foreign governments and diplomats spent large sums at Trump hotels (notably the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C.).
Examples:
o The Saudi government paid for rooms and services.
o The Kuwaiti Embassy and others hosted events at Trump properties.
o Reports and financial disclosures showed foreign governments spent hundreds of thousands of dollars at Trump-branded businesses.
Exhibit 2:
Twelfth Amendment, Paragraphs 2 & 3
The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;
The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed;…
Trump obstructed and manipulated this process by:
1. Pressuring Vice President Mike Pence, in his role as President of the Senate, to reject or delay counting certified electoral votes on January 6, 2021.
2. Promoting baseless claims of election fraud in multiple states whose certified votes were about to be counted.
3. Encouraging efforts to submit fake slates of electors, intended to cast doubt on or replace certified electoral votes.
4. Promoting alternative outcomes and disputing the results even after states had lawfully certified them.
5. Attempting to block the lawful transfer of power to Joe Biden, who had clearly won a majority of certified electoral votes.
Exhibit 3:
Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.
Trump clearly engaged in the insurrection, by inciting the mob to violence, by failing to engage the national guard and not urging rioters to leave, and by telling them "We love you. You’re very special." Of course, his subsequent action at the beginning of his second term in pardoning the insurrectionists is also ‘giving aid or comfort’.
I have much, much more --we haven't even got to his manic 2nd term yet--, but this is getting long enough, and I’m tired. Do you need more?
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Craig, I'm not impressed with the effort.
Exhibit 1: Staying at a Trump hotel by a foreign dignitary does not constitute "gifts" or a "title of nobility". It MIGHT constitute an emolument, but in aggregate terms, not really. A quick AI search indicates that Trump hotels did not receive higher profits on net during Trump's first term.
You are missing a far more egregious and massive benefit that Trump received: pyramid scheme investments in his crypto and DJT truth social media stock. How you could miss something so massive and obvious beats me. I thought you had a financial background too. Is it because you used AI and didn't read what you pasted?
Exhibit 2: agreed in part. Although Biden's mail-in votes were probably not legitimate in some states such as PA, based on various observations and analysis I have shared here before in extensive detail, disputing it on January 6th was not an attack on the actual fraud that occurred. It amounted to an attack on the Electoral College itself, and an illegitimate abuse of federal power to subvert the will of the states. Pennsylvania's partisan judicial decision to override the signature verification enacted by the legislature was unconstitutional and that is what Trump should have gone after, but it seems his lawyers were kind of dumb and chased the wrong things. The 2020 election was improperly secured, and its improper results were improperly disputed. The whole thing was compromised, and if we have a repeat, it could well be the end of our country.
Exhibit 3: nah, I don't quite buy that argument, and neither did the Supreme Court. And the decision was unanimous. You really should do your own research.
This list read worse than the sloppy AI reviews that people have been leaving on my pieces lately. You also missed the first impeachment over the Zelenskyy bribe attempt. You can do a lot better.
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I can't be bothered.
besides I'm still laughing at 'Trump didn't abuse women.'
Tell me again how many millions of dollars he still has to pay E. Jean Carroll.
And then to have the nerve to accuse others of not doing their homework.
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I said I hadn't even got to his second term yet, which is when most of the nonsense to which you refer has occurred. I'm fully aware that virtually nothing means anything to you unless it's got dollar signs attached to it; I'm not so singularly focused on money. I did mention some of his earlier financial skullduggery, but I view his treachery towards his country, his people and his democracy as being more sinister, which is why that occupied a lot of my (partial) post.
You really need to get over your fixation with 'evil' AI. It exists. It can be used and abused. I'm smart enough to know which is which. As I've suggested before, if you made more use of it, you probably wouldn't need to spend so much time questioning stuff that is easily verifiable, and making claims that aren't true.
"Exhibit 3: nah, I don't quite buy that argument, and neither did the Supreme Court. And the decision was unanimous. You really should do your own research."
On the contrary, you should stop trying to be a smart-arse; or at the very least read the articles you quote from. Did you read the article, or even the headline? "Supreme Court rules states cannot remove Trump from ballot for insurrection". NOT he didn't participate in, or create, an insurrection, but that the State didn't have the right to remove him from the ballot. A Colorado state court determined Trump had engaged in insurrection, but rejected the call to remove him from the ballot. An appeal to the Colorado Supreme Court found he was ineligible. SCOTUS reversed that decision, but importantly 'The court did not reach some of the other issues that Trump had urged them to decide in his brief on the merits – such as whether Trump "engaged in insurrection" on Jan. 6.'
I made no reference whatsoever to the attempt to remove Trump from the ballot in several states, as it is irrelevant. What IS relevant is that he engaged in insurrection AND was found to have done so by two courts, a finding that was not reversed by the Supreme Court of the US.
Do some research yourself, and stop relying on the notion that if you express disagreement with something and link to the first article that catches your eye, we're dumb enough to just accept what you say.
I didn't "miss" the attempt to bribe Zelenskyy. I listed several things, every one of which satisfies your rather ridiculous demand to demonstrate that Trump repeatedly thumbs his nose at your Constitution. There are so many, I couldn't quote them all, or we'd be here for a month. And, as I mentioned, I haven't even scratched the surface.
My job is done. I suggest you focus on getting your facts straight and dealing with reality, rather than the drivel you hit us with in your last paragraph.
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