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RE: King James version
Reply on May 30, 2018 09:00 PM
Actually, no, Doug - I'm not more inclined to believe in some kind of multiverse theory than the universe one, but I'd be interested to know from where you drew that conclusion.

I have no idea where you got the 1E240 figure from. Cited by whom?

Your problem is that you can't lose this anthropocentric thinking, and it colours every single concept that passes through your mind. It's not all about us - understand that, and you'd be on track to getting a grip on the real "big picture".

The simple fact is that there are hundreds of billions of galaxies, each one containing hundreds of billions of stars, around which circle untold number of planets, and this has been the case for many billions of years. The idea that, somewhere, at some point in the history of the universe, on one of those planets, complex organic compounds should combine to produce a single, living cell doesn't strike me as being at all irrational. What seems far more likely to me is that this has occurred countless times in numerous locations throughout the cosmos. And from there, the rest, as they say, is history.

Or, Woo waved his magic wand, and it all just happened. Take your pick.




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RE: King James version
Reply on June 4, 2018 09:57 PM



Hey there Craig, you say:

"Actually, no, Doug - I'm not more inclined to believe in some kind of multiverse theory than the universe one, but I'd be interested to know from where you drew that conclusion."

I guess I gathered that because your "gee whiz" hypothesis goes hand in hand with what they call "the ensemble hypothesis". Atheists like Dawkins and Hawking usually tended to explain that hypothesis through multiple universe theory ( otherwise, a "one off" of perfect luck for us to be around to observe the fine tuned universe, would speak even more towards there being a Creator. ) I guess the point that you make about the vastness of the universe and the odds of " the fine tuned solar system", could be considered. I'm not sure why the likes of Dawkins doesn't make your point of a "fine tuned solar system" within the universe. There must be a reason, I'm not aware of it . I would guess , maybe that the observable property of the universe being finite has something to do with it, but I'm no scientist. I do know that there never has been any reason that scientists have observed for there ACTUALLY existing a livable planet somewhere else in the universe. ( nor would it's discovered existence take anything away from the God of our universe who left for us right here and right now our own Manual) Fine tuned universe types speak a lot also, about how other galaxies , from what they can tell right now, are not at all seeming to be conducive to supporting life. And I know SETI has never been able to find any hints of other life forms in the universe. after fifty plus years of looking The book by Paul Davies ( who has been heavily involved in SETI for thirty plus years) entitled "The Eerie silence" is on my "to read" short list.


I have no idea where you got the 1E240 figure from. Cited by whom?

like I said, I was going from memory. I could track it down for the exact number if you like.


you state,

"Your problem is that you can't lose this anthropocentric thinking, and it colours every single concept that passes through your mind. It's not all about us - understand that, and you'd be on track to getting a grip on the real "big picture".


I guess my colored "big picture" view comes from asking a very simple question that takes away the shrinking of mankind to an infetissimal , insignificant speck in the universe , (that you like to embrace), to a much more significant and meaningful position . That simple question is " Are we here for a reason?" It suddenly changes these infetissimal odds of our significance to a fifty fifty shot. And then, when you couple this question of "what is our reason for being here?", with the scientific reasoning that EVERYTHING in this universe has a reason ( cause and effect) , or an explanation, then the odds even swing greater than this coin toss. But scientific atheists seem to like to embrace the idea that everything in the universe has a cause and explanation EXCEPT for "Why, or how we got here". Or, what logically could be called the uncaused first cause.

And THEN, when you factor in the anthropocentric idea of why it is that man is the only creature that has "evolved" into having the ability and consciousness to even effect our earth, or to be it's steward, the odds, in my view, swing even further.
And THEN, add in this crazy anthropocentric concept called Love, and the idea that God is called Love , or the saying and verse that says GOD IS LOVE, and my anthropocentric reasoning is well supported.

in this light, why is it any less reasonable for a Christian to say that Nietzsche-types falsely executed God , than it is for an atheist to say that man falsely created God? ( as you and Emma and most atheists like to say.)


then you say,

"The simple fact is that there are hundreds of billions of galaxies, each one containing hundreds of billions of stars, around which circle untold number of planets, and this has been the case for many billions of years. The idea that, somewhere, at some point in the history of the universe, on one of those planets, complex organic compounds should combine to produce a single, living cell doesn't strike me as being at all irrational. What seems far more likely to me is that this has occurred countless times in numerous locations throughout the cosmos. And from there, the rest, as they say, is history.

Where is the REAL evidence of this? It is ALL theory. ( The origin of life idea, not the observed astronomy that speaks to a wonderful Creator) Psalm 19.

then,

"Or, Woo waved his magic wand, and it all just happened. Take your pick. "

I explained why it is that I pick , what you call "Woo".

Add in a little relationship with God and He NOW becomes a "Woo- hoo! praise The Lord!" lol.


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RE: King James version
Reply on June 4, 2018 11:27 PM
I'll keep it really short, because I'm a bit pressed for time today.

1. There is no such thing as a fine-tuned universe OR a fine-tuned solar system. This is how it works: in some (most) locations in the universe, life as we know it could not exist, therefore it doesn't. In places that are hospitable to life, there is a good chance at some point in time, given the right conditions, it has evolved, or will evolve, as it has here.

2. Those who wish to promote the idea of there being some "intelligent designer" seem, to me, to either deliberately or without being aware of it, obfuscate the language to suit their agenda. They speak of "cause and effect", and imply that "cause" is a synonym for "reason". It isn't. "Cause" simply implies something which brings about another event. Reason implies intention, and of course, for there to be intention, there must be an intelligent agent. An earthquake causes a tsunami. An earthquake doesn't intend for the tsunami to happen. You are guilty of this obfuscation, both in your discussion of cause and effect, and when you say "why or how we got here". Why and how are two totally different questions. How has been explained to some degree by science, though there are gaps in the knowledge (remember what has previously been said about it being ok to admit we don't know everything). As to why, in a universe which is governed only by physical laws, there is no "why". I don't have to give thanks to the rain god because my grass got enough water to grow, nor do I have to sacrifice a goat to appease the gods because I must have done something wrong when it doesn't rain. It either rains or it doesn't. Planets either orbit in pretty patterns, or they don't.

3. You make much of man being "special". I just have to say I see no evidence of this whatsoever. You claim he is a "steward". In what sense? What has man ever done to this world besides ruin it? From the point of view of some species with more intelligence than us, I'm sure they would see us as simply a virus - spreading out of control, and destroying everything we touch.

4. You ask "where is the evidence we are not alone?" Of course there isn't any. Unless you believe all the thousands who claim they've been kidnapped by little green men (which, of course, I don't). Our science has barely enabled us to get off this rock on which we live. Our best technology has so far got us 250,000 miles away. That's roughly 25 times the distance from New York to Sydney - Woohoo! The nearest star to us is 25,000,000,000,000 miles away. That's a hundred million times as far as we've ever got. Surprised we haven't made contact?

Just as an aside - if we ever DO make contact, we'd really want to hope and pray the other lot aren't anything like humans - because pretty much any time humans have set off to discover new worlds, they've ended up enslaving or annihilating whomever they found there. Not a nice thought.

I suspect, based on a numbers game, we are not alone in the universe, not by a long shot. Is it possible we are? Sure it is.

Sorry, DJ, but your idea that all of this was zapped into being for the benefit of one insignificant little speck - as we are correctly viewed, which can't even experience anything but an infinitesimally small part of it just doesn't add up, in my book.



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RE: King James version
Reply on June 5, 2018 03:21 AM
Humans are the only species to affect the Earth? Where did you get that idea from? Most species can, and do affect the Earth, some more positively than others.

If all the bees left the planet tomorrow, they negative consequences for the flora and fauna would be far greater than if all the humans left tomorrow.

Trees may not have a 'conscious' but if they all disappeared overnight, this planet would be uninhabitable.

Stewards, my arse. If humanity left tomorrow, and the natural world left to its own devices, it wouldn't need a 'steward', because the biggest source of destruction and misery would have left. Humanity does not, in any way, provide anything of use to this planet. It spends most of it's time trying to correct the cock-ups it has made, and is now desperately trying to 'save' the planet from itself.

Without us, the planet would do just fine. But I'm really, really intrigued to find out now just what, exactly, Doug thinks our presence has brought to this planet?



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RE: King James version
Reply on July 11, 2018 10:05 AM
I have been meaning to address further some of the questions put forth on this thread in regards to Adam and Eve and the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
I finally made for myself the time to study and address it more fully as to how it relates to us today. for anyone interested:


Overcoming the serpent whisperer-

The story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden, and their partaking of the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, and it's part in our separation of man from God may seem to us today as being ancient and irrelevant. But this story was at the time, no more or no less "primitive or ancient" in it's implications to man back then, then it is any more or any less "high tech, or modern" (say WHAAAAT?....stay tuned) in it's implications to man, living right here, right NOW.

The Lord has been revealing to me great and profound truths in regards to this seemingly simple narrative. This seemingly ancient and sometimes seemingly irrelevant narrative actually plays out EVERY SINGLE DAY in ALL of our lives. This fact is quite illuminating. If we merely take a step back from the actual, quite simple narrative and consider from a bigger picture perspective, what exactly it is telling us, both theologically and on a practical, pragmatic, day to day level, then it is life changing. It is not anti-Biblical, and as I will show, it actually profoundly displays the entire Bible's message to us all. It gloriously shows to us that to God, the "That was then, this is now" mentality doesn't mean much, if anything at all, to Him.

Let's start with the narrative. Adam and Eve walked with God. They were in a relationship with Him, in true accordance with God's exact and glorious purpose for what they were created for. They were formed by God and had a known and accepted reason for their walk WITH their Creator in His perfect Creation. All that they had, all that they were, and all that they were to become, came from their walk and communion WITH their Creator in the garden. All that was asked of them by God, was for their own freewill to decide, in each moment, to obey God's Word, or His Law, and to NOT partake in a decision to defy HIS clearly laid down rules.

But to break down the exact narrative from Genesis chapter 3:

-Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the Lord God had made.
He said to the woman, "Did God actually say, 'You shall not eat of any tree in the garden'?"-

Of course the world that we live in today and the garden of Eden are two totally different seeming worlds. But the way that we were, and still are designed to walk and be in communion with God remains exactly the same. It is much more subtly hidden away from us NOW in this perverted world. But it IS still there. And the serpent is STILL whispering that very question into our ear. The serpent, being as crafty as he is, of course also presents himself to us today, in many different and crafty forms and in many different, insidiously deceptive ways. Notice also the use of the word "beast". This word NEVER, in God's Word refers to anything made IN God's image. It ONLY ever refers to living creatures NOT created in His image. This word and this clear distinction comes in to play in that last book of the Manual. But to continue, this deceptive, fake representation of a different kingdom that we all exist in, and walk in today, leads many to believe that all that they have, all that they are, and all that they are to become, comes from their resultant, default walk with the serpent in the now perverted "garden", or what is now called "the world", or what the last book of the Manual calls "Mystery Babylon". Of course, the serpent referred to here, is also known as, and was called later by Jesus, "the prince of this world".

And also, of course, we ALL (That means every single one of us) are still made by our Creator for very specific and beautiful purposes for furthering God's glorious Kingdom ON Earth as it is in Heaven. We were ALL made for this. ( Psalm 139:13-16) It only depends upon how it is that we daily respond to this "serpent whisper". Do we fall for it again today?, or do we reject the whisper? and do we?, as we take our place in the REAL Kingdom, walk with, commune with and respond ONLY to the whispers of our savior?

The text goes on:
-"And the woman said to the serpent, "We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, but God said, 'You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.'" But the serpent said to the woman, "You will not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." -


"You will not surely die", the serpent said. And surely, Adam and Eve did NOT physically die. What this "sure death" WAS, was a spiritual one. The cessation of communion of man with God. Many of us, to this day, believe that there is no spiritual death. That when we die, that is the end of us. This is the first lie of the serpent that we STILL believe. But God's Word goes on to show us how exactly we are STILL being duped, and how exactly we can come back into communion with Him in the perfect Kingdom of God, the one that starts right here, right now on Earth.

This second point that the serpent made to the woman who will go on to be named "Eve", has in fact, never stopped making this point to us ALL, ever since that very time when man abrogated his role as having dominion on this Earth and given dominion over to the serpent. And the serpent has used his newly granted dominion to slowly and methodically (for the ones who don't walk with God in the Kingdom of God) build the FAKE, earthly kingdom (God's REAL Kingdom has always existed...when we choose to walk in it...even here on Earth) .
This post-fall Earth, under this fake kingdom, daily offers up to us ALL, our own choice. Our implicit choice to say, and our explicit choice to decide that we ARE like God. With this choice, we can think that we can now know good and evil, and we can even decide that we are the arbiters of defining what is good and evil. We no longer need to even live under God's law, for we think we can discern good and evil, sometimes even better than God's Word does. (I've pointed this kind of chosen viewpoint out to many atheists, and how that this kind of view is an exact manifestation of the "partaking from the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil") And therefore, we ALL, in essence, can choose to this day, just as the serpent proposed to Eve, that we ARE our own "gods".

-So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate, and she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate. Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked. And they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loincloths. -

How exactly WERE their eyes opened?
They suddenly saw that they were naked.
Suddenly their minds were changed into thinking that they had to cover themselves. Suddenly their minds were convinced that everything that they had, everything that they were and everything that they were to become, didn't solely come from God. They somehow thought they had became wise outside of God's set forth law, and they had to NOW cover their nakedness. The perfect Garden, and the perfect Law that God had provided was no longer adequate to their changed minds. (That is WHY they had to cover themselves with their own loincloths fashioned by their OWN "god like" mindset. Man's very first attempt at self Righteousness and the birth of false religion.)

-And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. But the Lord God called to the man and said to him, "Where are you?" And he said, "I heard the sound of you in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked, and I hid myself." He said, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten of the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?"-

This is confirmation to this idea of their changed mindset. God asked them "Who told you that you were naked?", or in essence, "Who changed your beliefs so that I am not the source for everything that you have, everything you are, and everything you are to become? You have decided to NOT live within the protection that My Law had to offer, and to NOT have communion with me. This is YOU deciding to NOT commune with ME. This mindset, to this day, is STILL with us. Everyday we are STILL given oppotunity to respond accordingly to that "serpent whisper".


-The man said, "The woman whom you gave to be with me, she gave me fruit of the tree, and I ate." Then the Lord God said to the woman, "What is this that you have done?" The woman said, "The serpent deceived me, and I ate."-
Genesis 3:1‭-‬13 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/gen.3.1-13.ESV

This shows God's willingness to be a Just Judge. He knew the nature of that serpent. But, HE also, fairly new the man and woman's part in this "fall" from Him. He then went on to impart His Godly property of action/consequence (Justice). That property of His Creation that makes EVERYTHING function in both the physical and spiritual realms ...even in science...we call this property action/reaction, or cause and effect.


-The Lord God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, cursed are you above all livestock and above all beasts of the field; on your belly you shall go, and dust you shall eat all the days of your life. I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel." -

There are a few things to consider here.
Firstly, as if we needed more confirmation of this, the term "dust" can also, in it's Hebrew equivalent word, be defined as ashes. What's the old expression? "Ashes to ashes and dust to dust." This is a clear reference to death and dying. So when the text says "dust you shall eat all the days of your life", God is probably also directly and prophetically addressing that "ravenous beast that goes around seeking whom he can devour" (to eat their death "ashes" or their death "dust" to quench his ravenous appetite, for his whole life.)

Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.
1 Peter 5:8 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/1pe.5.8.ESV

Notice that Peter doesn't say Satan is a literal lion, but that Satan is like a lion. Perhaps he could have just as easily said that Satan is like a snake prowling, or crawling around....but the pathetic snake isn't nearly as scary as a lion. Kind of apropo, because Satan isn't nearly as scary as he would like to present himself... to a walker in God's Kingdom anyways.
The second thing to consider is that much of this text, as much of Gods Glorious Word is, can be taken literally, metaphorically AND prophetically. It is a commonly known hermeneutic tool of interpreting God's Word. That previous verse and this next verse are glorious examples of this:

"And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel."

Not only is this to be taken in its literal sense, as evidenced by the animosity and battle between literal snakes and man, but also the battle between man and "the serpent and his minions", prophetically and metaphorically. And THEN, MOST GLORIOUSLY, the prophetic declaration of God to the serpent, Satan, that Eve's offspring, Jesus, would once and for all "crush his head".

In case you missed it, or aren't quite paying attention, this is HUGE! This is God laying out His whole plan to put man "right" again in the Kingdom. This declaration thousands of years before the offspring of Eve, named Jesus, came around. The ONE who came to redeem ALL of mankind To put man back into the Kingdom of God. The Kingdom of God that Jesus constantly talked about and tried to teach to His disciples exactly HOW this Kingdom actually started right there and right then on Earth. With His prayer even saying "Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done. On Earth as it is in Heaven." This is why it has been said that Jesus didn't only come to put us in the Kingdom of God, but to put the Kingdom of God in US. We Christians are only right now beginning to fully grasp all of this. This is probably an area for Christian growth of the church, that is of unprecedented, ( sans, perhaps, the American Revolution) and quite exciting proportions.


-To the woman he said, "I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be contrary to your husband, but he shall rule over you." And to Adam he said, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife and have eaten of the tree of which I commanded you, 'You shall not eat of it,' cursed is the ground because of you; in pain you shall eat of it all the days of your life; thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you; and you shall eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return."-
Genesis 3:14‭-‬19 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/gen.3.14-19.ESV

This narrative certainly seems a despairing, depressing, yet accurate description of man's toils throughout history here on Earth. Especially as seen through the eyes of a non believer, or at least a culture or nation state living under the dominion of the serpent. This serpent dominion has effected cultures and nation's throughout history in the forms of the pharoahs, Kingships, feudal monarchies, empires and dictatorships (Communism, fascism, socialism, despotism and even, sadly, vaticanism and now crony Capitalism), where the "prince of this world", or the serpent uses his dominion to control his "antichrist" minions to push onto the people of each age that age old idea that either it's leaders are the REAL gods, or that no real Biblical god even exists. Again in essence, that old garden serpent whisper.

But God's Word tells us that we can be overcomers of this slave system. Bob Dylan really said it best when he sang, "You're gonna have to serve somebody...." We can either be slaves to Christ as God's Word says, or slaves to the serpent whispers.

1 Peter 2:16 (NASB)

Act as free men, and do not use your freedom as a covering for evil, but use it as bondslaves of God

Colossians 3:24 (NASB)

knowing that from the Lord you will receive the reward of the inheritance. It is the Lord Christ whom you serve.


But we CAN , and throughout history HAVE* overcome those serpent whispers.

This is why Jesus said:
?I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world."
John 16:33 NIV
https://john.bible/john-16-33

And why, more pertinently, he also talks of the overcomers in his letters to the churches in the Revellation, chapters 2 and 3. ( I will point out in parenthesis the ways that the narrative of these Revellations lines up prophetically with the Genesis chapter 3 narrative). The letters to the churches from Jesus are thought by many Biblical scholars to be representations to us on many levels. The differing churches were not only historically descriptive of the then existing churches, but also symbolic and prophetic representation or description of future churches (corporately) as well as symbolic, and prophetic descriptive representation of future, individual church members (each man individually). I include this last letter to the Laodiceans, because it seems the most applicable to the modern, especially American, church, and to every single one of us... believers, or non believers alike, everywhere.

And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. (a quite descriptive and compelling warning of urgency to ALL half - hearted believers) Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; ( a harkening to our rejecting of Him in the garden, as well as a chaste word for our American apathy born from our comfort and wealth) and knowest not that I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich (Calling out how we don't believe in the true riches that do not pass away. The things of eternal, spiritual substance) ; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, (the spotless, Jesus' blood covering that replaces the man made fig leaf, or even God's temporary, symbolic animal blood covering) and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear ( the nakedness brought about by believing the old serpent) ; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. (Being back in Covenant with God and again seeing that everything they have, everything they are and everything that they are to become, comes from God) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. To him that overcometh ( there is that word again) will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. (This is the last, and wonderfully Grace filled appeal of Jesus in the entire New Testament, to ALL of His Creation that He dearly loves, before the events of the Revellation takes place. )
Revelation 3:14‭-‬21 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/rev.3.14-21.KJV


So, Where does my comment about the advanced high technology fit in when I began about the Adam and Eve narrative? Remember that ancient primitive idea of a serpent whispering into man's ear "You will not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

Here's a good place to start:
Google recently bought out this company called "Deep mind"
https://techcrunch.com/2014/01/26/google-deepmind

But a serious point that one needs to consider is that what we, the common man, are told about Artificial intelligence, or A.I , and what its intended role is in society, and what the Elite's ideas and plans for A.I REALLY are for us, are two entirely different things. I know, shocking!

I have much, much more to say on this, but for right now , I will point out that A.I, like all tools developed by man can be used for good or for evil. It only depends on the intent of whose hands the tool is in. It is much like the great tool of the club, or the match or the knife or the pen or any other explosive tool. This being said, I will point out briefly that A.I is ultimately intended to finish off the serpent's plan to turn ALL of humanity into slaves. This will be accomplished, the serpent thinks, by using A.I and it's "Hive mind" collective of "wisdom and knowledge" of the internet or "cloud", and integrating it directly and "more conveniently" into mankind's brain, consciousness and then ultimately effect his freewill. We can all, who are paying attention, see where these kinds of inroads, or (GUI) interfaces of the serpent whisperer- are developing. You know, "Don't you want to live forever and be like God?"
Much more of my research into this "beast" technology is coming, I am sure.

*But we CAN again, and STILL, today overcome. The Kingdom of God starts right HERE, Right NOW. ( I intended to talk here of the example of Kingdom building that was the American Founding Fathers, and the American Revolution, but this write is already too windy. So, hopefully at a later date.)

To again quote Jesus' last pre tribulation call to us from the Bible:

As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.







   
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