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Water

   Thread Started October 13 at 11:54PM

The subject of fluoride toxins was started on another thread and I thought the subject deserves a thread of its own.

The question we are trying to get to the truth in this debate is this: Does the Government need to control what is dumped into the water supply?

I remember five decades ago when the subject of fluoridation came before city council and it was the first heated debate I recollect that got people all hot under the collar. Being so young I can't remember if the city added fluoride to the water supply or not. lol

Anyhow after a cursory hour of research on the subject I came to conclusion I don't know much about our planet's water cycle. I got trapped up in the question, why isn't rain salty?

This is what I found on Health Canada's website

Fluoride is a mineral. In Canada, fluoride is found naturally in our water, air, food and soil.
Benefits.

Fluoride helps prevent tooth decay, a common yet serious disease in Canada. We have used fluoride to prevent tooth decay since the 1940s.

Fluoride has been scientifically proven to:

1) strengthen tooth enamel
2) lower the amount of acid in your mouth
3) rebuild minerals that make teeth stronger



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RE: Water

Reply on October 14, 2017 12:19 AM
I wonder how many people who are so concerned about fluoride in the water are concerned about poison gas in the water? I'll bet quite a few of them are perfectly happy that the lives of many humans and countless livestock are threatened by the practice of coal seam gas extraction - "fracking", so long as it lines the pockets of a few billionaires.



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Reply on October 14, 2017 12:27 AM
I know! The toxins that get dumped into the water system from mining, manufacturing and farming make adding fluoride seem like the tiniest drop in the bucket. Concerns over it could easily be seen as a distraction from the much, MUCH larger problem.




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Reply on October 14, 2017 01:00 AM
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Natural News (formerly NewsTarget, which is now a separate sister site) is a website for the sale of various dietary supplements, promotion of alternative medicine, controversial nutrition and health claims,[2] scientific fake news,[3] and various conspiracy theories,[4] such as "chemtrails", chemophobic claims (including the purported dangers of fluoride in drinking water,[5] anti-perspirants, laundry detergent, monosodium glutamate, aspartame), and purported health problems caused by allegedly "toxic" ingredients in vaccines,[2] including the now-discredited link to autism.[6] It has also spread conspiracy theories about the Zika virus allegedly being spread by genetically modified mosquitoes[7] and purported adverse effects of genetically modified crops, as well as the farming practices associated with and foods derived from them.[8]
The site's founder, Michael Allen "Mike" Adams, was the subject of controversy after posting a blog entry implying a call for violence against proponents of GMO foods, and then allegedly creating another website with a list of names of alleged supporters. He has been accused of using "pseudoscience to sell his lies".[9] Adams has described vaccines as ?medical child abuse".[10]
Characterized as a "conspiracy-minded alternative medicine website", Natural News has approximately 7 million unique visitors per month.[11]

Writing in the journal Vaccine, Anna Kata identified Natural News as one of multiple websites spreading "irresponsible health information".[21] According to John Banks, Adams uses "pseudoscience to sell his lies" and is "seen as generally a quack and a shill by science bloggers."[9] One such blogger, David Gorski of ScienceBlogs, called Natural News "one of the most wretched hives of scum and quackery on the Internet," and the most "blatant purveyor of the worst kind of quackery and paranoid anti-physician and anti-medicine conspiracy theories anywhere on the Internet",[22] and a one-stop-shop for "virtually every quackery known to humankind, all slathered with a heaping, helping of unrelenting hostility to science-based medicine and science in general."[11] Peter Bowditch of the website Ratbags,[23] and Jeff McMahon writing for Forbes commented about the site.[24] Steven Novella of NeuroLogica Blog called NaturalNews "a crank alt med site that promotes every sort of medical nonsense imaginable." Novella continued: "If it is unscientific, antiscientific, conspiracy-mongering, or downright silly, Mike Adams appears to be all for it ? whatever sells the "natural" products he hawks on his site."[2]
Individuals who commented about Adams' website include astronomer and blogger Phil Plait,[25] PZ Myers,[26] and Mark Hoofnagle.[27] Brian Dunning listed it as #1 on his "Top 10 Worst Anti-Science Websites" list.[28] Adams is listed as a "promoter of questionable methods" by Quackwatch.[29] Robert T. Carroll at The Skeptic's Dictionary said, "Natural News is not a very good source for information. If you don't trust me on this, go to Respectful Insolence or any of the other bloggers on ScienceBlogs and do a search for "Natural News" or "Mike Adams" (who is Natural News). Hundreds of entries will be found and not one of them will have a good word to say about Mike Adams as a source."[30]
An article in the journal, Vaccine said the site "tend(s) to not only spread irresponsible health information in general (e.g. discouraging chemotherapy or radiation for cancer treatment, antiretrovirals for HIV, and insulin for diabetes), but also have large sections with dubious information on vaccines."[21]
After Patrick Swayze's death in 2009, Adams posted an article in which he remarked that Swayze, in dying, "joins many other celebrities who have been recently killed by pharmaceuticals or chemotherapy." Commentators of Adams' article on Patrick Swayze included bloggers such as David Gorski[31] and Phil Plait, the latter of whom called Adams' commentary "obnoxious and loathsome."[32] When Angelina Jolie underwent a double mastectomy in May 2013 because she had a mutation in the BRCA1 gene, Adams stated that "Countless millions of women carry the BRCA1 gene and never express breast cancer because they lead healthy, anti-cancer lifestyles based on smart nutrition, exercise, sensible sunlight exposure and avoidance of cancer-causing chemicals." Gorski called the article "vile" and noted that Adams had written similarly themed articles about the death of Michael Jackson, Tony Snow, and Tim Russert.[33]


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Reply on October 14, 2017 01:10 AM
Great information, Mike. They are a propaganda arm. I remember when they wrote that story in their newsletter about Trump's false claim on Twitter about being wiretapped. Anything to sell those supplements eh?

Here is a new one they posted on October 10, 2017. After GOP liars failed to repeal Obamacare, Trump will gut the law with executive orders. Seems counterintuitive for a health newsletter, yes?


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RE: Water
Reply on October 14, 2017 01:14 AM
ha...hey Oppi...you still awake.
what about this Doctor....he got skeletons or hidden agendas...?





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Reply on October 14, 2017 01:19 AM << Modifed October 14 at 1:22AM >>
I'm sorry, Michael. I just can't bring myself to accept anything as fact from an organisation that has "wellness" in its name.

Meanwhile, people interested in an alternative view could check out this article:

https://theconversation.com/four-myths-about-water-fluoridation-and-why-theyre-wrong-80669

or this:

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/fluoride-still-not-poisoning-your-precious-fluids/

Meanwhile, here is the kind of site which you'll typically find pushing this line about fluoride:

http://drsircus.com/cancer/fluoridated-water-the-ultimate-evil-2/

Run by some guy called "Dr Sircus" - now that's funny! Apparently, he's a "Doctor of Oriental and Pastoral Medicine". And of, course, if you check out the site, you'll find anyone who doesn't think that real doctors and dentists are evil space-aliens hell-bent on the destruction of the human race is referred to as... you guessed it... "sheeples."

[eye roll]

I think that's the second time today I've responded to something at the same time as Mikey - sorry!


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Reply on October 14, 2017 01:24 AM
lol...right...right right right say maybe you could tell us why you approve of dumping "anything" stamped poison in the water supply and pretending it could possibly be beneficial to mankind...or your kids.


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Reply on October 14, 2017 01:32 AM
Ahh. Dr. Stan ... hosted a radio show caterwauling about the EVILS of fluoride to sell water filtration systems. Was big on Globalism and the New World Order and, of course, a good buddy of Mister Jones. :))

Any of your OWN words you might add? Or do these suspect and discredited characters constitute the sum of your knowledge. Chicks dig Opie by the way....

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Reply on October 14, 2017 01:34 AM
I don't, Michael. It's simply a fact of inaccurate reporting, as usual. Nobody, least of all council or government agencies dumps anything from barrels marked "poison" into the drinking water. It's simply appealing to the typical person's lack of knowledge of basic chemistry.

Did you know sodium is a highly dangerous metal that can cause damage to the respiratory tract and eye damage? It's also corrosive and highly water reactive. Chlorine is a deadly gas, and inhaling it can lead to pulmonary edema. It can cause ulcerations, and is a basic component of toxic household bleaches.

So next time you attack health professionals with this pseudo-science claptrap, I'm going to mix some sodium chloride in with your food.

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