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For Newbies on Critiquing.

   Thread Started July 1 at 1:34AM

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Over the last few days I've gotten what I consider inappropriate comments from new members, all basically the same regarding posted stories. There should be a brief introduction to help when commenting, rather than letting them find out on their own. I'll try to explain about commenting on stories. Maybe someone can add unwritten rules on poetry?

Although I'd love to post ten or twenty pages at a time, I know better. Fanstory members will only tolerate four or five pages at a time, sometimes six if they become interested.

Some stories are stand-alone and posted all at one time. Some are longer and must be split into sections to be posted individually. When you read a section (posting) of a long story you can't expect to have an introduction, storyline, and a conclusion.

The first section should have a "Hook" to draw the reader into reading more, introduce one or more major characters and the environment. It will probably NOT tell the storyline or plot, nor have a conclusion.

The middle sections may continue fleshing out the characters and may reveal the plot, or not. It may only serve to advance the storyline. It will NOT have a conclusion.

The final section will have the conclusion also, typically, action leading up to it.

If you do not read a complete story, a stand-alone one, you can only pass judgment on the author?s writing skill, mention errors or perceived grammar and spelling errors, and look for logic errors.

A chapter should be complete in itself, though not necessarily giving a lot of character development or even plot. A novel chapter should be a complete scene, such as in a stage play in-between drawing the curtains to change backgrounds. A story section, though, is only a chunk out of a longer story -- split at an appropriate place.

Have you noticed how in published novels some chapters are only a few paragraphs long while others may be ten or twelve pages? The same goes for novels here. One chapter may require several postings, since in a stage play one scene may go on for an hour before changing the background. You should grade it the same as several consecutive sections.

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Years ago most stories garnered four stars, if only an error or two. Five were appropriate with no errors and six if considered perfect.

These days that has regressed to five stars being normal and six still for exceptional.

If a lot of errors I sometimes give three stars and have only given two stars twice since 2006. Both times I spent a lot of time mentoring the authors to help them improve. I've never given one star ... yet, he-he-*Gigglesnort!*

Warnings:
Language -- Use if there is a lot of adult language in the posting. Not necessary if one or two words.
Sex -- Use if there is graphic sex in a posting. Not necessary for innuendos or simple comments.
Violence -- Use if there are fights of any sort or violent activity. Face slapping doesn't count.


Charlie


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RE: For Newbies on Critiquing.

Reply on July 1, 2017 12:19 PM
Hello everyone. I, am a 'Newbie'...HERE.

I didn't list my pedigree, or degree's, or try to draw any attention toward my previous writing experience for a lot of reasons. I spent my money toward this endeavor for feedback in the continuation of honing my skills as a writer, and I've gotten a lot. For that I am humble and grateful.

Writing is personal experience, (unless you're a journalist) and, so is the genre you are particularly drawn to. I'm Not one to pull any punches because I might bruise an ego. Although anything I review I do with an honestest attempt, through my own experience at this, and with hopeful intentions it helped. It's how I see it, how it 'hits' me, and if I struggle with it, hey, I will let you know why. Or at least attempt to let you know why. If you don't agree and think I'm full of crap, and didn't like the star rating I gave, not sure what to tell you. The lowest rating, so far, has been a three. I figured that was 'good'. Four stars I assumed meant 'very good' and five was exceptional.

So far I have experienced some extremely good feedback. Thank you. It's what paid my dues for.
And when I say feedback I'm referring to it ALL, from the 'loved it' to the 'hated it' and all points in between. It's what makes me better at my craft.

Thank you all.
RESPECTFULLY
norm



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RE: For Newbies on Critiquing.
Reply on July 1, 2017 01:17 PM
Thanks, Norm. That's the kind of critique I like, and give. I'm not here to inflate my ego, or necessarily to be read. Personally, I'd rather have a few good crits than twenty "I like it"s.

There's something in every story or poem that affects you in some way. let the author know. It only takes a moment. If you like the effort, say why. If not, say why not.

I can only speak for prose writers, that we have thick skins. If not, we should find another vocation or hobby.

I've been here for a long time and have rarely seen a troll or other mean person. I trust they're quickly weeded out. But all the comments you receive will NOT be to your liking. Eat it up and live with it. If you don't like a suggestion, ignore it. If two or more readers give the same suggestion, think seriously of changing that item.

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RE: For Newbies on Critiquing.
Reply on July 1, 2017 09:42 PM
Man, I couldn't have put that better myself.

Thanks
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RE: For Newbies on Critiquing.
Reply on December 5, 2017 03:17 PM
This is a great thread. Thank you folks for keeping this available.

   

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