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RE: There is Sure to be Backlash
Reply on November 26, 2017 03:16 AM
Gerrymandering is huge and has been going on for decades by the Republicans. It's mainly local and statewide though, but that still makes for a power base and a machine. It also makes the House of Representatives lean way to the right. THEN since each state gets two Senators, you can see how the red state/blue state mix comes into play. California, New York and New Jersey for instance, three of the most populace states have little impact on the country's policy and direction. That's a hundred million silenced voters.

The televangelists and mega churches is the tangent we went off on in that they are the money machine behind these Roy Moore, Donald Trump, Steve Bannon types. It may seem nuts to most people, but to the Evangelical Christians, it's preached every Sunday as GOSPEL. That is some heavy influence and some HUGE bucks to back it up. Sure Trump is on board the God train, it's loaded with MONEY.


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RE: There is Sure to be Backlash
Reply on November 26, 2017 03:40 AM << Modifed November 26 at 3:42AM >>
Thanks for the information. It's all starting to make more sense now with Trump's drive to destroy Hollywood, California, Time Warner, (Time Magazine/CNN) New York City, The New York Times, Silicon Valley, California and I'm sure there are many more. Plus it makes sense why Trump's so-called tax reduction bill will actually increases taxes to the middle and lower classes in California, New York and New Jersey and others. No wonder he/they want a weak, corrupt puppet like Moore.

I'd say it's about time for the resurgence of Wonder Woman. And I mean that seriously. Trump admitted in 2011 if and when he decided to run for president he'd organize the far-right Conservative Evangelicals to help him get elected.


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RE: There is Sure to be Backlash
Reply on November 26, 2017 03:56 AM
I thought you might get a kick out of Trump's Tweet today

@FoxNews is MUCH more important in the United States than CNN, but outside of the U.S., CNN International is still a major source of (Fake) news, and they represent our Nation to the WORLD very poorly. The outside world does not see the truth from them!

Wow, even I didn't realize we did so much. Wish the Fake News would report! Thank you.


And then the President of the United States of America retweeted a 4chan Russian troll bot. Guess that disinformation works for his worshippers.


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RE: There is Sure to be Backlash
Reply on November 26, 2017 04:23 AM
Language, which is the game we play here, is taking center stage these days. Think of the words and phrases being used now. "Fake news". That's a hella powerful phrase. It's as effective as hell to call CNN "Fake news". That appeals to a simple mind. "Dating" "young ladies". Yeah, that sounds a lot better than the perverted molesting of innocent teenage girls. "Evangelical Christians". Wow, folks standing right at the gates of Heaven no doubt. How could anyone have anything against them? Surely they aren't the biggest liars on the planet are they? They wouldn't back one of the biggest pigs on the planet, would they?

Hell, "liberal" is about as derogatory a term as can be applied to someone anymore.

Of course, we've heard some select phrases and terms here, haven't we? "Luciferians", "New World Order", "Libtards", the heretical "Black Lives Matter", I thought they were a good organization when they first came out. But those Russian bots told us otherwise. And OF COURSE, we believe anything a Russian bot tells us.

Well, I'm rambling now, hell MY MIND IS BLOWN BY ALL OF THIS. We elected DONALD TRUMP PRESIDENT. For God's sake. Does anyone realize how insane that is?


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RE: There is Sure to be Backlash
Reply on November 26, 2017 04:55 AM
Trump is the ham-handed, simple-minded man who won the presidency by showmanship, lying and breaking the rules. And that's the beautiful thing about it, everyone can break the rules once they understand that's the game we're playing now, but they best not waste any more time thinking these folks are ever going to play nice, because they'se greedy. The Kochs are next. This is an economic game being played out by the mega-wealthy. (The Illuminati) The Evangelicals are of no consequence, just useful recruits for these ruthless characters.

Reprint from National Post

Steve Bannon and two of his longtime benefactors, the Mercers, are putting together a political coalition designed to ensure that the victory of a Republican insurgent in Alabama's Senate primary this week was just the beginning of the surprises that await the party establishment.

Bannon brings to the effort the political and promotional skills he showed as President Donald Trump?s chief strategist and advocate for populist stances on issues such as immigration and trade.

His benefactors, billionaire hedge fund investor Robert Mercer and his daughter Rebekah Mercer, bring wealth and their own proven anti-establishment streak.

The obstacles Bannon and the Mercers face are formidable: the well-funded resistance of mainstream Republicans; a shortage of viable anti-establishment candidates like Roy Moore, the victor in Tuesday?s Republican Senate primary in Alabama; an absence of political infrastructure for supporting them; and their own reputations for not always following through on big political plans.

But the Bannon-Mercer alliance is likely to be a potent factor in widening the divisions laid bare by the Alabama race and the intraparty battles that have crippled the Republican agenda in Congress. It could put Bannon and the Mercers on a collision course not just with the Republican establishment but also with other donor-driven political organizations, including the one built by billionaire brothers Charles G. and David H. Koch--and potentially with Trump.

At Moore's victory party, Bannon promised that ?you?re going to see in state after state after state, people that follow the model of Judge Moore, that do not need to raise money from the elites, from the crony capitalists, from the fat cats in Washington, D.C., New York City, Silicon Valley."
But Bannon acknowledges that fomenting disruption will not be easy.

?We?ve got a long haul in front of us," Bannon said in an interview at the Capitol Hill town house that doubles as his part-time residence and as the Washington headquarters of Breitbart News, the website owned in part by the Mercers and run by Bannon.



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RE: There is Sure to be Backlash
Reply on November 26, 2017 05:48 AM
Well, I've got to be honest, I'm not surprised at the support, which sounds like a terrible thing to say, but while your nation has legal ages of consent ranging from 16 to 18, I was shocked by how many states have NO minimum age for marriage at all, whilst others state 14. Over the past 15 years, more than 200,000 minors married in US, and in Tennessee girls as young as 10 were married in 2001. That's shocking to me, but you know what most of these marriages are? Arranged ones in fundamentalist religious groups.

You see, the Muslims turn up and everyone's so shocked about the fact they can have more than one wife, and the burkhas and all that, whilst totally ignoring the number of teenage girls in supposedly Christian religious communities who are married off to (often) older men, sometimes men they have barely even spoken to and sometimes against their own wishes. These girls are often expected to be more 'traditional' wives. For some, that means being treated like a household slave.

Am I missing something, here? A guy runs for political office and is (rightly) in trouble for molesting young girls, yet a couple of states away, he could have married the 14 year old perfectly legally and he wouldn't even need her consent in some cases, just the consent of her parents.

Lets just think about the girls as young as ten who legally got married in Tennessee. Legally. Married. Do we really believe that was a ten-year old's decision?

So why are we really expecting the evangelicals not to support this man, when across your country, the marriage of minors is not uncommon among such groups (or even illegal). And I don't believe for a minute that a man in his twenties or thirties (or even older) marrying a thirteen of fourteen year old always chastely waits until she is 16 and then politely asks her if she is OK with having sex, do you?



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RE: There is Sure to be Backlash
Reply on November 26, 2017 09:08 AM << Modifed November 26 at 9:13AM >>

The United States of American is changing, the principles of democracy, freedom, and the like, are being stripped away by this administration...I never thought there would be the a time, that we, as a people, would openly accept the idea of a child molester in government...and yes so much more!

I say this seriously, its as if people have been hypnotized, and can see only through the eyes of a man like trump....cannot see past one single subject...such as those that are against the right of a woman to have an abortion...although I may not agree with that, no religious group should have enough influence to change that law...

The supposed separation of Church and State should prevent that...It may sound rather extreme, but if we were to look back in history, we might see what happens when the government begins to strip its people of their constitutional rights..(being informed by way of the news media)...and are being told all the negatives that may apply to one group, ignoring the negative that all of us have...

Not every criminal, here, is a Mexican, not every crazed shooter is an Muslim, and there groups of supposed Americans that hate blacks, white supremacy is a problem we hear little about..from the white house...why is that?...

I think trump's been a lot smarter than we imagine, while his tweets show a man lacking in
the ability to sound presidential, certainly not what we would expect from the supposed leader of the free world, he has managed to make changes, by way of executive orders, and reversal of those introduced by Obama that shows a lack of serious concern for the American people...In that regard, its not a matter of republican or democratic, its a matter of the rights of all Americans.

No need to go into all of those orders, and how they effect us, because i just couldn't do it in one short post...why the fight against the news media, and why do so many people believe all of what trump says, who are trump's the supporters, are they being fooled, by his words...what exactly does the Make American Great again idea really mean.

Across the country, republicans have being working hard, from local, state and federal levels, to change the idea of representative government...by gerrymandering its done quietly, and the purpose is to allow one ideal, of what America should be like to prevail...and its working...

My question is, what happens to those of us, that still believe in the importance of those that keep us aware of whats going on,..here and in the world...trump's constant effort to demean the news media has a purpose, to blind the eyes of those that would allow him to walk down 5th avenue in New York with his gun in hand.

its difficult to speak on some subject without sounding like my thoughts and ideals are the only ones that count, but to be honest within ourselves is another thing...and there are people, out there, that seem to have forgotten they do have rights, and their demands, are worth fighting for...instead, behind the doors comments are made quietly...until they listen, and read another tweet from their president that sounds like what thy want to hear.

This is a divided country, always has been, history from the beginning has shown that, and to me I believe fear has become so much a part of people's mindset, that we will continue on a path of selfishness, and disregard for the rights and needs of those other than ourselves.

People fear the loss of their jobs, people that go to a different house of worship, don't dress the same, speak in a another language, and are just plain "different"..and trump actually depends on those thoughts to keep his people in line.

trump's tweets are not by chance, he plans what he wants to say, and how it will effect them...the very idea that we would even imagine sending possibly thousands of young/old people out of this country is appalling to me...and its fear that is causing so much of the actually hatred of Muslims, Mexicans, and yes people of color...Haitians were allow to come here on a emergency basis after the earthquake (?) in Haiti, but even their status is being questioned...right now...whether we want to believe it or not, there was a difference in how Puerto Rico was treated during the terrible hurricane, the president made mention of the number of people that died at that time, an yes, there have been over 400 hurricane related deaths since then...when last did you hear trump make mention of that...he won't because he doesn't care..

There's so much that's actually shaping this country, toward a one man rule leader, and I wonder if that's only my dislike for trump that allows me to see that.

Mikey's post said so much, and there's many Americans that feel the same...we have become a country that allows a man to lead us, that is clearly not qualified, hasn't the sound mind, that is needed to see the world, not as we and they, but in its totality.

I would take a book, to completely express my concern for this country...that I call home, but it wouldn't be what some would like to read...there's good snd bad here, but we're turning into a country of those that have, want more, and care not, for those without...look at the president's close advisers he seems to get those closest to his ideals as heads of the agencies whose responsibility was to look out for all of us.

As an old American woman, I am saddened by what I see happening...I thought we were better than we actually are...

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RE: There is Sure to be Backlash
Reply on November 26, 2017 08:29 PM << Modifed November 26 at 8:38PM >>
I truly thought we were better than this as well. I thought we'd made REAL progress in so many areas. But I was clearly mistaken.

The age of consent is from 16 to 18 years of age. In California us crude men have a term for gals under eighteen, JAIL BAIT. Not genteel, but to the point. Messing with a gal under 18 is a good way for a man OVER 18 to end up in jail and destroy his life. It's no joke. It may seem silly when you're talking about a nineteen year old boy and a seventeen year old girl, but it IS the law. When I turned 18, my 15 year old girlfriend became underage and I became potentially engaged in criminal activity. Of course, the laws have much older men in mind, like the Roy Moore's of the world. Nonetheless, a cop with a grudge could've arrested me and a pissed off father COULD'VE pressed charges.

There are special cases where parental consent and marriage trumps the child molestation laws, but the NORM is imprisonment and a lifetime as a registered sex offender. People like Roy Moore USUALLY enjoy years in prison where they are the most looked down upon inmates incarcerated. He'd likely be sodomized on a regular basis at the very least, killed more likely.

Upon his release, he'd be forced to register as a child molester on a public registry for LIFE.

Most communities would NOT want him near their kids. The fine people of Alabama it seems, have no problem with his ways and consider him a lovely Christian man pursuing the purist of God's children.

What was the reason for stopping secession from the Union again? Maybe we were hasty.




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RE: There is Sure to be Backlash
Reply on November 27, 2017 02:45 AM
Disgusting. Just imagine it! All the men who've been incarcerated and brutalized from crimes similar to those alleged to Roy Moore can be set free, their records expunged and compensation sued for and obtained thanks to President Trump. Apparently child molestation wasn't against the law after all.

Hey, totally off-topic but something cool, the National Debt Clock in real time. It appears the national debt has risen almost 1.5 Trillion since Trump was inaugurated. At this rate he's gonna have the biggest and best debt ever.

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Reply on November 27, 2017 02:59 AM << Modifed November 27 at 12:18PM >>
Once again, Trump leads the way. Obama had the lowest debt growth since Ike. Wussy ....

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