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RE: Yes or No
Reply on October 1, 2017 04:02 AM

Oh, whoops!

Sorry Mikey, I did indeed get it all wrong.


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RE: Yes or No
Reply on October 1, 2017 04:02 AM
Sorry I took so long to respond. I didn't mean to leave you hanging. I'm not at home and borrowing someones pad. I was blathering in the political forum.

Sometimes I just plunge in and I don't really pause or edit or take time to think that not everyone will get who I'm directing things at or even what I'm talking about sometimes. I "usually" do. :))


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RE: Yes or No
Reply on October 1, 2017 04:33 AM
The problem. Mikey, I think, is that within the walls of this forum, Craig and I, as the fully blown atheists on this thread tend to get most of the caustic comments about 'mocking' other people's ideas. Recon's been dropping bombs about what fools we are for a while, now, yet you are the first to condemn him for it (fair play to you). So I can appreciate how Craig mistook your comment, since it's the kind of thing we are used to being on the receiving end of.

I've said elsewhere that I don't think any of us are that dissimilar. I think we all want the same, positive things for our world, we just diverge on how we get those things.



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RE: Yes or No
Reply on October 1, 2017 04:54 AM
Oh, I know the feeling. LOL

I often think, "Hmm ... do I want to announce that I'm a Christian? I feel like arguing the OTHER side."

Yes, in any caring people there HAS to be a whole island of common ground. I think I mentioned, if anyone is talking about approaching the world with love and an intention to do no harm, that covers about 95 percent of it.

I guess I would say, "If you're not a Christian, you sure are ACTING LIKE ONE."

And you might reply, "You may be a Christian, but if you weren't, you'd act EXACTLY THE SAME WAY."

Well, something like that. I'm at the local bar and it's closing time. I think this gal wants her Ipad back. Ever go to a bar and NOT drink? Hilarious. On my way home. :))


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RE: Yes or No
Reply on October 1, 2017 07:41 AM
You borrowed someone's ipad on a night out to chat to us? I don't know about anyone else but I feel honoured!


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RE: Yes or No
Reply on October 1, 2017 08:52 AM
Strange conversation overheard in a bar:

Her: So ... you taken me home, baby, or what?

Him: Do you mind? I'm chatting on Fanstory!

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RE: Yes or No
Reply on October 1, 2017 09:42 AM << Modifed October 1 at 11:01AM >>

There's something that has to be made clear here, I really don't mind anyone that doesn't believe in a living God, that would rather consider religion a farce, its up to each of us to find our own way...but that doesn't mean one such person must continually try and show how those of us that live differently are living a fantasy life...That's what bothers me...and that's what comes to my mind when I read some of these comments...We could discuss this subject over and over again, and the same
type of comments will be made, one of you will try and convince us we're ignorant, or living under some kind of book of rules, that really mean nothing...things that people already know, that the decency of human beings doesn't come from reading some book...I'm insulted by that, one can offer their opinion without making fun of another...or assuming they must be some kind of idiot...education is one thing, I can match any of you with degrees and years of study, teaching and all of that, but Faith is something else, its not taught in a classroom, its not a matter of even reading and digesting what one reads in the Bible...it a matter of acceptance...and its fine if some of you would like to offer the psychological writings of some one that is held in high regard in the world of what might be called realism...but those writings do not apply to me...While I don't condemn these people they just don't speak for people that hold dear their Faith in a God they cannot see..why can't people just accept that, it doesn't cost anything...its not trying to force you to believe other than what you do...This is a conversation that should not turn into personal attacks, and that's what's happening here...

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RE: Yes or No
Reply on October 1, 2017 10:17 AM
Appreciated and understood, Mrs M, but the lack of acceptance of different ideas, theories, etc, goes both ways. The personal attacks haven't just come from our side of the fence, but I kind of feel that the comments and observations we make are more readily chastised than ones from the other quarter.

Whilst I accept having made comments I shouldn't have made, and apologise wholeheartedly for offences caused, I do note the lack of recrimination attached to others who do likewise to both myself and Craig.

Acceptance is a two-way street, and currently it feels as though the remonstrance for ill-considered attacks on this forum has been somewhat one-sided.

I wish no ill to anyone in their faith. If it's a positive thing for you, then that's something beautiful. You are certainly no fool, Mrs Major, but neither am I, nor is anyone else on this forum. So why is it acceptable for my thoughts, and others thinking similar to to be ridiculed, but not yours and others with similar thoughts to yourself?

The answer is, it isn't. So why is it we only see you demanding (and rightly so) some respect from Craig and I, but not from Recon or Doug? What's good for the goose ...


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RE: Yes or No
Reply on October 1, 2017 11:04 AM << Modifed October 1 at 11:38AM >>


Your response Sarkems, is exactly what I expected from you!!

The repeat of all you've been saying...I've tried very hard to be realistic...I know the thoughts of so many people will differ, but even people that know they are different tire, and that's what's happened to me...and if you think, as an atheist, which doesn't bother me, you haven't often made fun of those that have a sincere belief in God, you can do so, but you've even become actually annoyed with me because I've used the word "understand"...that's the time I really became angry...in the past I've tried to simply explain myself...its the atheist that makes the comments that are disrespectful, and so as I said...your response is exactly what I expected...

I try not to read this the religious site, since all I see is the same things, and so it has gotten to be quite enough....I've been in many conversations, outside of this site, as people of all different religions often come together to discuss, differences, and religious tenets, and whether you care or not, I've never heard some of the things said here...people are interested, just for the sake of knowledge, not to change minds...and I've learned a lot about the religious beliefs of others.

Its not a matter of personal criticism, its simply a matter of gaining insight into others...and yes understanding them...its called respecting their right to serve who/what they wish...while you do the same.

There will always be zealots like Recon, and that's what I call him, but when it gets too personal he also becomes out of line...but we just can't lock all of us here, in the same box, and take every ideal, as nonsense...I've not done that...You have.

I'm going to pray for myself, and try my best to stay away from this conversation, its just not worth it...besides, I'm not writing as much as I once did, and that's the reason I'm here...Old age has become a friend of mine...perhaps not wanted, but there is an alternative, and I'm just not ready to go that route quite yet...LOL

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RE: Yes or No
Reply on October 1, 2017 01:10 PM << Modifed October 1 at 1:18PM >>
Oh, I give up. I thought my response was perfectly reasonable. You come back with a personal attack. But, yeah, I'm the bad guy.

   
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