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RE: Prescription Drugs
Reply on October 18, 2017 10:54 AM << Modifed October 18 at 11:41AM >>


I'll tell you something, and its funny now, but it wasn't then...my son had to have knee replacement on both knees (job related)...and he told me, at the time, how he was suffering, I asked him, if they didn't give him something for the pain....and he said, sure, if you want to get in trouble.

He said that there was a machine next to his bed, that dispensed morphine whenever the patient felt the pain was great..although it helped he didn't use it often for fear of becoming addicted...

I had the same thing by my bedside, when I had surgery...sometimes its easy to get addicted to these pain killing medication...but its still all up to the patient, whether they do or not...

When I was young I can remember the kinds of things my parents, and grandmother used for us...mostly because there just wasn't the kind of medical care available for poor people..(this will surely make you laugh), at the beginning of the winter season, my father would have all of us (sisters) stand up in a line to receive what was to keep us from getting sick for the winters...it was a horrible tasting dark black herb....ugh...did it help, I don't know, for sure, but what illnesses I had as a kid, had nothing to do with a cold...ha ha ha,.,,I say that because I know my parents had their own ways to deal with their aches and pains...and other maladies

Yet in their final years, it was the corner doctor that helped, along with the visits to the county clinic center...there's a time for all things, and its up to each person to live their life the way they want too..

I don't take any kind of herbal medication, there's just not enough information I value to allow me to do so...yet my daughter uses herbal teas, and skin creams that carry the word "natural" somewhere in its descriptions...but just this morning, she has an appointment with a good well known MD...there's a time for everything...that's just my opinion, and it works for me!


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RE: Prescription Drugs
Reply on October 18, 2017 01:09 PM << Modifed October 18 at 1:22PM >>
the likes of recon...Emma...know "they" are our Government. They being the wealthiest in power. there aint a politician in town that isnt indebted to them....instead of US. it's been that way for so long its become our normal.

do you want to know when we'll know when or if someone is for US...?
when they acknowledge and call for the abolishment of the leech of our life blood...the federal reserve. who print our money and loan it to US at interest. ...and by thus control our world.



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RE: Prescription Drugs
Reply on October 18, 2017 02:19 PM
Sounds revolting, Mrs M, lol.

I think it is amazing how far we've come. I related my own story about buggering about with something I should have gone to the doctors for.

I don't like taking tablets, but I certainly will if and when I need them, and I'll finish taking the doses like you're supposed to. And, if I had them, I'd vaccinate my children, because I'm old enough to remember people who had polio, but today's children will not see that disease at all because of vaccinations.

But I do think it is important to understand that doctor's prescriptions are not without their own pitfalls.

And yes, Michael, point taken, but if it wasn't the government doing that, it'd be somebody else, and at least you can elect a government. You can't 'elect' a pharmaceutical company, and you aren't always able to choose which products of theirs you use. Your doctor is the person you trust, and mostly, that trust is warranted, but doctors are not all above greed, or bowing to pressure. They aren't saints.

If I go to the doctor, I want to be assured that he is giving me the best treatment for myself and my ailment. Not whatever drug will make the pharmaceutical company the most money. Generally, I have that faith, but it's easier to have it when I know that my doctor isn't just going to hand me whatever I am willing to pay for, because strictly speaking I am not paying for it.

I don't want my doctor to give me what I demand to have, because I'm the 'customer' and I am paying for it, I want the doctor to give me what he knows I need. I was always safe in the knowledge that I couldn't visit my doctor and just ask for a drug and get it because I was willing to pay for it. I had to have just cause, a need for it, not least because it was being paid for out of the public purse.

And that's always been my concern about 'profit driven' medicine. Those that can't afford to pay may not get what they need, whilst those willing and able to pay may get unnecessary treatment.

All I'm saying is that there seems to me to be a correlation between over-prescribing issues of a particular magnitude, and getting your healthcare from a private source, based on my observations from living in both worlds.

And the same goes in the opposite direction. There shouldn't be a denial of treatment that is vital simply because the funding isn't there.

And my point still stands, recon, that if I was referring to a government funded health scheme at the heart of this problem, you'd be straight in there with how the government are trying to dope up the people, and how terrible it is. Why is it any different when it is as a result of the actions of a private concern?




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RE: Prescription Drugs
Reply on October 18, 2017 04:05 PM << Modifed October 18 at 4:06PM >>
it is the action of private concern...

can "we" really elect or vote in a "government for the People" by the people of the people...? hm...how...?

here's what Colin Powell said when retiring as General when a reporter asked off camera so what's next politics...?
he said yea I may...but first I need to make some money. you dont get in without it.

We bicker among ourselves who won the "popular" vote.
when it really doesnt matter ....in the end they all work for the same "government".......we all do.

and it isnt going change I guess...when outrage as "one" is virtually impossible separated as we are....and outrageous offenses like the indebting of our future, tampering with the water supply dropping chemicals on us from the sky....for are own good....is accepted in shoulder shrugs and yawns.








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RE: Prescription Drugs
Reply on October 18, 2017 04:10 PM


Sarkems,

What you just said, makes a hell of a lot of sense...it makes no difference if its a private concern or a government agency that's doing damage to the people, its all Bad News!

I also agree we, as a people, have to be more involved with our health care...I most certainly am, I've seen people, (in the hospitals)...with no private doctor, have several different doctors visit them and each have an individual cost...I guess its what you learn when you're around these people...I sincerely advise people to research every prescription they receive...sometimes there are generic brands that work as well as the
more expensive ones...

I must agree with you once again, when medications is needed, sure we will take them, but there are doctors that I believe have arrangements with particular drug companies to push special medications...sad to say, but money is the name of the game, even where the medical field is concerned.

I have even changed doctors because of the actions or none action of a nurse or front desk secretary...Its a shame to have to do that, but whether the cost of care comes from the government, or out of one's pocket respect is due.

I could tell you a lot of stories, about nurses that came to my home (after hospitalization)..and ended up falling asleep, or the one that spoke on the phone so much of the time, and also the one that came to my home, and claimed she rang my bell and I wasn't home...believe me that a right out lie...my Shaka barks even when a car passes my house, so if she was there I would have known it

As you say, its going to be that bad apple, in the barrel, and we as consumers have to be alert...after all its our health we're concerned with.

Just like I can speak for some of the good doctors I've had to deal with..believe me, I can tell you some horror stories also...

There's a lot that goes on in hospitals that the public never hears about...

Well, that's all I can say about that...I'm going to go and eat dinner, and believe me, I'd rather have a hamburger and some french fries...(that's a joke)...I very seldom eat those things...but what I am allowed to eat just doesn't hit the spot...lol

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RE: Prescription Drugs
Reply on October 19, 2017 01:16 AM << Modifed October 19 at 1:23AM >>
Michael, I just watched this video today...I sat and cried...

years ago...and still now...my sister kept telling me that the white lines in the sky were people putting chemicals in the air...that it was poison to us...and I just laughed at her...telling her she was crazy....after watching this...I realize she wasn't the crazy one...

while watching this a commercial for children in hospitals with cancer came on ...had to have chemotherapy...the chemicals in our waters, our foods, and in our air...they are killing our children...all of us...all for power and greed...

I thought the Holocaust was the worst of the worst...but the ones with all the money...not caring...the ones who want control are no better than Hitler...killing millions and not thinking about it...knowing all the chemicals they are putting in our water, our food, and air....and not caring...and insurance companies don't want to cover the diseases caused by the these chemicals...because they are in there with the rich and the evil...

every year we have new skin diseases...stomach and colon cancers...mouth cancers...breathing problems...allergies have risen so fast in isn't funny...allergy meds have gone up...two ...three...times higher in cost...for those who react to all these chemicals...if they don't kill you first...

I started reading about some of the chemicals on different web sites...you can't believe it...what is wrong with people???...even the rich have kids...

I wish I could say things could change for the best...but the ones with the money and control are running the world...

this video truly upset me...I wish I could say I hadn't seen it...but that's a lot of the problem now...people walk around with blinders on...either knowing they just can't do anything about it...or they just don't believe it...a doctor told me years ago...chemicals in all our life resources were going to kill us...I think I believed it...but didn't know how bad it would get...to where you couldn't even drink a clean, pure glass of water...

same as our medicines...they now have more garbage in them...than the medicines your trying to take...(generic) ...that's why people react to them...die from them...better the brand name...but of course those are crazy expensive...

I hope this wasn't written to simple for some...

Thank You Michael...this video truly open my eye's... Linda xxoo



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RE: Prescription Drugs
Reply on October 19, 2017 03:41 AM
Just another unsupported conspiracy theory I'm afraid. This one has been around for years. If the drastic changes suggested in this video were really happening, the earth would have been dead and gone by now.


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RE: Prescription Drugs
Reply on October 19, 2017 08:54 AM << Modifed October 19 at 9:54AM >>
People react and die from prescription medicines for many reasons.
Interacting improperly with other meds in their system
Allergic reaction
Overdose
Very low tolerance
Pharmalogical science is not absolute, therefore many unpredictable things can happen and do, sad but true.
Have not seen the video, do not care too.
Generic drugs are no different than the originally patented drugs. Once the patent expires, drug manufacturers are allowed to create the same drug and usually at a lower cost. Such as Walmarts Equate Ibuprofen.

All drugs, regardless, over the counter or prescribed, have the potential to be deadly. All drugs are tested using the LD50 rating.
Very few drugs can declare they cure or ameliorate disease, but what they are designed to do is override the body's physiology in time of crisis, (thank God) and allow an individual some modicum of comfort and also protect the individual from possible recurring or possible infections, etc.
As far as Cancer, the big 3, cut, burn, poison, western conventional protocol, one can never be said to be cured of cancer but rather in remission. A lot to be said.

As for cancer and other maladies being on the rise, ''tis true. For every stride or advancement forward , we fall back for many reasons.

As for natural, functional, holistic protocols , these too, can be just as detrimental. Do your research.

I am all for giving your body what it needs on the cellular level to help fight, defend, and repair, and regenerate properly. Truly it's a must. But an individual must do their due diligence and research and if under going conventional therapy discuss openly with your Dr. and give him the information you have garnered. Too often, we walk in blindly and put our faith in many things. Ones responsibility for t their health and their treatment starts with the individual, not the Dr. Good Dr.s work and listen to their patients and concerns and welcome input. I know many many of them.

In my experience natural, holistic practitioners never ever advocate giving up your prescribed medical protocol, but encourage the individual to talk to their Dr. They, also, never declare a cure all. Cannot... against the law for one thing and it is not true. In fact, it's your body that has the ability to cure or fight when given the right protocol whether it's pharmalogical or natures food. They simply assist the body in building a great defense, or in most cases as in chemo destroy the defense completely because it has gone awry.

The theory of nature's medicine cabinet is bathing and feeding your cells on a molecular level the right nutrients so that each cell can modulate, regulate, regenerate, repair and defend properly.

This is just a simple explanation and goes much deeper but I do not have time right now.

Snake oil practitioners from both sides of the coin exist from Dr. to Holistic practitioners. However with that being said... many Dr. s today are being enlightened and getting on board with integrating functional holistic protocol with conventional. Something they were not taught in Medical School because most Medical Schools here in the good ole USA are funded by the Pharmacalogical giants.

More to be said later.

One thing to be said about modern medicine, we live in a medical marvel time where trauma to the body can often be fixed and thankfully you are put under safely in a controlled environment to screw you back together!!! We do have the best that the best has to offer when it comes to trauma. However, our problem right now is also opioids addictions., usually brought on by having to take such meds for the trauma.


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RE: Prescription Drugs
Reply on October 19, 2017 06:18 PM
Mother Earth is pretty stout, and always readjusting and renewing so to speak. So no , she would not be dead and gone by now, but her eco system is being abused and damaged each and everyday by man's advancement.

Natural cycles balance and regulate Earth and its atmosphere. Human activities cause changes to these natural cycles. Scientist are constantly studying and trying to figure out what impact our advancement has on Mother Earth by studying its cycles.

Our eco system is tough but also fragile. We are playing a dangerous game and that is no conspiracy theory.


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RE: Prescription Drugs
Reply on October 19, 2017 11:39 PM
Jimi, my 'dead and gone' statement was in response to the belief of some here that evil scientists are deliberately poisoning the planet via 'chentrails'.

If you believe the statement in this video, you would certainly think that the earth was in the most drastic danger, and yet these same old stories have been circulating for years without suffering too many ill effects from the massive aluminium poisoning these theorists postulate.

   
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