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Reply on November 10, 2017 12:01 AM << Modifed November 10 at 12:02AM >>
I'll just bet he's got a shipload of guns, too. Yes, that's right - shipload. Sounds like exactly the type that should be packing.


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Reply on November 11, 2017 03:23 AM
Gman, you beat me to it. I would say, however, that not being able to decide on anything is probably more to do with them being politicians ...

And a funny thing. I remember people saying there'd not be a woman PM again because of Margaret Thatcher (they were wrong), but, y'know, nobody ever says 'We won't have another Male PM again because of (insert PM you thought was crap here).


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Reply on November 11, 2017 04:44 AM

I guess my point is that there's a lot of Oo-rah over these things but what does it mean if nothing really changes... Clinton would have been a nightmare too.

The point about our lot is that although woman are in the ascendency, it makes NO difference. In this case one could argue it is worse... before this was the case, we had a working government... yes it is simplifying somewhat but so is the kerfuffle over women being elected. It matters not to me who gets elected provided they actually do something.

I'm not against women, before someone jumps down my throat, but I work in a female dominated arena and do you really think things are better just because a different sex runs things...

That is an oversimplification of the issues. The point is it shouldn't matter. When attention is drawn to every little thing - whether women in politics or something else - it perpetuates the cycle rather than closes it.


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Reply on November 12, 2017 05:21 AM
I agree, G. Running a country is running a country, regardless of what sex you are, but unfortunately, when people are voting, it often DOES have a significance. Some would vote for someone BECAUSE they are a woman, regardless of actual policies. Some would vote against for the same reason.

Would the country be better if a woman runs it because she is a woman? Not necessarily, but perhaps the important thing about electing a woman is the fact that society has moved significantly far enough not to view women as incapable just because they ARE women, and it is questionable whether some voters have actually moved beyond that point.





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Reply on November 12, 2017 05:33 AM

Absolutely, here you could put a ferret in either a tricolor or union flag and it would get votes...


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Reply on November 13, 2017 10:39 AM
Ha, ha, ha.

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Reply on November 13, 2017 11:21 AM


Well, it might be bad, but not quite that bad!


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Reply on November 13, 2017 12:31 PM
These women are not the run of the mill politics as usual sort. They're every walk of life folk, pissed off at the ludicrous policies and behavior of the current administration who got sick of it, got off their duffs and challenged the status quo and defeated it.

It's a good thing and not the norm at all.


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Reply on November 13, 2017 02:47 PM
Speaking of women in politics...

I don't think I ever finished off my thread about our NZ election, which was a close-run thing and came down to coalition negotiations...

Anyway, we now have a young (37), good-looking (according to some) woman as PM. She has had a meteoric rise through the ranks, is dynamic and in her own words 'relentlessly positive.'

She is currently in Asia for OPEC and other meetings, where she has shaken hands with Trump, butted heads with Australian dinosaur, Malcolm Turnbull, met with tough-guy Duterte from the Phillipines (didn't praise his gangster approach to politics as Trump did) and had an apparently cosy one on one meeting with Justin Trudeau - must say they made a fine-looking couple, and she has invited him to visit New Zealand.

Meanwhile, back in kiwiland, her new government is moving swiftly in a number of policy areas, especially education, health, immigration and social and green areas...

Watch this space.

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Reply on November 13, 2017 07:20 PM
Just looked her up--Jacinda Ardrem? Yes, she and Justin definatly would look like a portrait of the future when photographed together. You might be interested to know that Trudeau proudly calls himself a feminist and has made a concerted effort to have 50% of his canbnet represented by women.

   
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