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RE: What's bigger than the Trump?
Reply on January 11, 2018 09:39 PM
OK, thank you for clearing that up, Mrs Major. For the record, I'm all for the right of anyone to believe and do anything they wish, as long as it doesn't impinge on anyone else's right to do the same, and doesn't cause harm.

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RE: What's bigger than the Trump?
Reply on January 11, 2018 09:39 PM
OK, thank you for clearing that up, Mrs Major. For the record, I'm all for the right of anyone to believe and do anything they wish, as long as it doesn't impinge on anyone else's right to do the same, and doesn't cause harm.

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RE: What's bigger than the Trump?
Reply on January 11, 2018 11:18 PM





I feel the same way...life would be so much happier for all of us...


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RE: What's bigger than the Trump?
Reply on January 12, 2018 02:35 AM
Well, I'm happy to be a teenager in your eyes, Mrs M. I've a friend who is a JW here on my island. We've talked about it from the point of view of her explaining to me what her beliefs are, and me learning more about that particular Christian view. I'm friendly with the Methodist minister. I congratulated her when she was fully ordained. I don't have to believe what these folk believe to show an interest in something that is important to them, or be their friends. Neither of them, in their turn, have tried to tell me that their belief should be my 'truth'. They do them, and I do me.

If I turned up at their church, I'm sure they'd be pleased to see me. But the fact that I do not has never been a subject for critique by them, so the fact that they DO has never been something I've criticised them for.

Of course, here is different, this is a discussion forum. But it just goes to show, we can all live calmly together without all needing to believe the same thing. And that's a beautiful thing.


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RE: What's bigger than the Trump?
Reply on January 17, 2018 06:18 PM
Hey CD, I started looking a bit at Von Daniken, thanks for pointing him out to me, by the way. I love that stuff. I only watched most of one of his videos so far. Unfortunately my daughter, who was recently home from college for Christmas, as usual, was proficient at using up all of my 4G bandwidth for the month. What I have watched so far, I am pretty much familiar with the things he was saying. I am sure that his work was based on the works of past scientists, archaeologists, Biblical scholars, philosophers. In the same way that some of the more modern science and archaeologist's work that I was alluding to is based upon some of HIS work. Like the work of Steve Quayle, Tom Horn, L. A Marzulli,...The series "True Legends" by Tim Alberino , I haven't seen it yet, but from what I can gather,. it talks about the Biblical / alien perspective I am referring to.

Von Daniken did speak in one area that kind of jumped out at me. He was speaking of the book of Enoch. He spoke of the discovery of a copy of it in Ethiopia. If I remember right, and if my memory from some past research serves me correctly, the book, or maybe a religious translation of it was thought to have been "lost" or banned or buried or at least hidden away, until that Ethiopian discovery. ( The Lord and His Kingdom works in mysterious ways). But the interesting part was that Von Daniken was talking about how there are two translations of the book of Enoch from the Ethiopian discovery. One, he said was of a Religious translation, and the other of a more scientific, or secular interpretation. He then went on to point out some of the differences . He did speak of "his" translation, versus the religious translation, which I was confused about. But this is what I found most interesting of what he suggested:.
His perspectives on our perspective shaping our interpretation of something, is a perspective well worth considering.

It could very well be that once upon a time, back in the days, in a relatively short time period ( The Bible tells us seven generations) before that time of Enoch ( who the Bible tells us "walked", at times, with God):
And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
Genesis 5:22‭-‬24 KJV


It could be, that back then, the people who we, in the modern day would call the products of enlightenment, or material or "scientifically minded", and the people who we would call in our modern day , the mystical minded or the spiritual or religious minded WERE the EXACT same people. A world where science wasn't necessary, or never existed because Man walked directly and intimately WITH God. The garden of Eden Story of the Bible, whether only allegory or not, seems to suggest this.

Could the things what we now call " science" and "scientific" really be just man trying to separate that veil that had been erected between man and God when something happened between them? (Genesis Chapter 3, whether only allegory or not seems to suggest this.)

Could the " Kingdom of God" that Jesus talked constantly about, really be part of God's long game plan, or long arching story ? ( His Story)

Could the playing out of "science" ( unperverse and REAL, I Have to add) and the enlightenment AND the faithful followers of God "rebuilding the Kingdom of God", throughout His story,, as Jesus illustrated, ( I am the Way, the Truth and the Life). could this ALL, ultimately be a ripping down of that separating veil between God and man, to bring back that Kingdom of God? (Where science is again , no longer relevant or needed... God's singularity instead of Lucifer's plan for a singularity.
Is this ALL also a very relevant illustration to us today, of the verse where Jesus says"as it was in the days of Noah"? Matthew 24: 37, or Luke 17:26.

All very interesting, I think.






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RE: What's bigger than the Trump?
Reply on January 17, 2018 06:44 PM << Modifed January 17 at 6:45PM >>
Hi Doug,

I'm glad you found Von Daniken entertaining. I'd use a different word, but each to their own ;-)

As for what his work is based on, my cynical viewpoint would be "how to make a quick buck".

Now that you've read (or watched) something presumably based on his "Chariots of the Gods", you might be interested in checking out a book called "Crash Go the Chariots", by Cliff Wilson, which is a response to it.

Don't worry, from memory he isn't a despicable atheist type, I'm pretty sure he's a Christian. I guess it could be dangerous recommending books I haven't looked at in 40 years, as my recall of their actual contents is almost zero. All I remember is that I thought at the time he answered Von Daniken admirably.

As for your other questions, perhaps later, I'm a bit pressed for time right now.

Peace.

   
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