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RE: Help end this brutal dictatorship
Reply on October 25, 2017 08:20 AM
Ill thought out?

The plain and simple fact is, if someone doesn't have a gun, they can't shoot anyone.

I'd say the quantity argument is self-evident.


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RE: Help end this brutal dictatorship
Reply on October 25, 2017 09:51 AM << Modifed October 25 at 9:52AM >>
Yes, Craig and if people didn't have hands, they couldn't strangle someone. And , I might add, hands are even more ubiquitous.


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RE: Help end this brutal dictatorship
Reply on October 25, 2017 02:33 PM
Hey Emma, you say:

"Look at us, over here, the bulk of police aren't even armed, yet we've had nothing like the level of attacks at grass roots that you've had. Oh, we've had a few, but by your logic, we'd be a sitting target, so why aren't we? "

By my logic Emma, there is NO reason whatsoever for you guys to have these attacks... Because there is no political agenda to take away guns. So your point is simply wrong. And actually makes my point that America is unique in this regard for a reason. ( Your moniker's namesake do sound like fantasy island to me, though. .lol)

Then you said:
"Would you have believed it if it had been someone claiming to have a connection to ISIS? Is it really only a conspiracy if the MSM claims it is a good ol' American guy? "

This alleged shooter was far from a "good ol' American guy." ( If I understand your point correctly). Perhaps the most outlandish conspiracy theory of all is that this guy made millions of dollars a year gambling or playing video poker. Are you sh##ing me?

Did you know that the the MSM hid the fact that ISIS claimed responsibility for this shooting ? What would you make of all of the witnesses claiming more than one shooter? All of the video evidence and police scanner audio of multiple shooters at other casinos like the Tropicana, the Bellagio etc.... not to mention the ever changing official narrative . ( The shooters face was conveniently blown off of his head, so how do we even know that it was even the alleged shooter?,)

Here is an intersting, short video of audio by Mike Adams "the health Ranger" , that makes great points on the "official narrative"

https://vimeo.com/236596488

Perhaps, the MSM and law enforcement, at the coersrion of the FBI is hiding a REAL ISIS attack. ( Not that factions of our beloved deep state aren't complicit in this ISIS phenomena )

Then you said,
'It never is' because you don't want it to be. You want it (wouldn't we all) to be some enemy of the state, some alien force. It can't be your neighbour, your brother in arms. Well, sorry, but sometimes it is. It was at Columbine, it was at Sandy Hook."

Are you sure about that? Especially Sandy Hook . That "official" narrative has more holes in it than Swiss cheese. Could you at least entertain the idea that maybe YOU are the one being mislead by a certain type of agenda. One that might be trying to convince you that Satan doesn't exist.


Then, , you said:
"then why can't you believe there is such a thing as a lone, white, American gunman, who did it just because he flipped his lid? You ask why we always believe it was some gun-loving dude, and not part of something deeper. "

A simple answer to this one Emma. Because the REAL evidence shows it NOT to be the case.
The simple truth is that, at least lately, every time there is a mass shooter in America, the pushed official narrative is now, because of thinking, smart "Won't get fooled again " people, blown to shreds .

Sure, there are lots of shameful REAL killings by guns everyday in America. Like for instance in Chicago. Being that guns there HAVE been taken away politically ... But yet, hundreds of Killings a year and 59 this month,so far, I hear.... Why then don't we hear more about the obvious spiritual reasons behind those kinds of tragedies? I wonder why?

Finally , you said:


"Could it be because it makes your nation think differently about something it has always held dear? "

Yes, yes there is "something" trying to make us think differently about many things our nation holds dear.

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RE: Help end this brutal dictatorship
Reply on October 25, 2017 02:53 PM
"Yes Craig, and if people didn't have hands, they couldn't strangle someone."

Excellent point, DJ! Oh wait.... no, it's crap.

1. When is the last time someone strangled 58 people to death in the space of a few minutes? Are 30,000 in one single country killed every year by strangulation?

2. Hands have multiple uses. They can scratch noses. They can be used in a pleasant form of greeting. They can aid in consuming food. They can be joined together to indicate approval. They can... oh, ok - let's just leave it there.

Guns have one purpose only - to kill. Which makes one wonder why people who claim to follow a religion which decrees "thou shalt not kill" want to have anything to do with them.



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RE: Help end this brutal dictatorship
Reply on October 25, 2017 03:23 PM << Modifed October 25 at 3:51PM >>
I know the point you make Craig is mostly true, but guns have one OTHER purpose. THIS is the one you refuse to see. Emma, when I said Sarkem seemed like fantasy island, I should have probably said paradise Island. The way you describe it often sounds heavenly, to me anyways. I hope you didn't take it wrong. Blessings.

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RE: Help end this brutal dictatorship
Reply on October 25, 2017 04:06 PM
You mean like compensating for deficiencies in other areas, DJ? That's the only other purpose I can think of.


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RE: Help end this brutal dictatorship
Reply on October 25, 2017 08:50 PM
If there is ANOTHER purpose for guns besides killing, DJ just say what the other reason is. I use my rifle for lawn aeration does that count? ;-)

I wanted to address a few points you made DJ.

You wrote: Perhaps the most outlandish conspiracy theory of all is that the guy (Stephen Paddock) made millions of dollars of year gambling or playing video poker.

I also find that highly unlikely, but it was a story provided by a friend to the investigators, so Paddock may well have lied to this person and they didn't know enough about gambling to realize the odds of making that kind of money playing video poker are nil to zero. But it did bring back the memory of an equally absurd claim made by a very much younger Trump on TV that 30% of the video poker games in his failed Atlantic Casino broke down because people were playing them so hard. Not the truth which is the games were shut down by the gaming commission because Trump had violated regulations by overpopulating the games.

Did you know that the MSM hid the fact that ISIS claimed responsibility for the shooting?

No they didn't. They did report the ISIS claims and were asked to hold back further on air discussion by Republican, Sheriff Joe Lombardo and the FBI investigating the crime.

The shooters head was conveniently blown off of his head so how do we know it even was the shooter?

That can be easily determined by DNA.

Are you sure about that? (regarding the shooter just being a man next door) Especially Sandy Hook. The official narrative has more holes in it that Swiss cheese.

You should be happy to know the FBI has released all the previously held back Sandy Hook files. All we can hope for is that the conspiracy theorists while grasping at any straw to vindicate their fake stories will consider the negative emotional impact on the families involved. Sadly I don't hold out much hope for their integrity or kindness as they are hell bent on creating a fake universe from alternative facts with no regard for the real lives they ruin.

Myself I have no intention of watching anything about the Vegas massacre, until the official report is released because doing so muddies the facts.

Please forgive me for answering some questions directed toward you Emma.



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RE: Help end this brutal dictatorship
Reply on October 31, 2017 06:21 PM

G,you say:


You should be happy to know the FBI has released all the previously held back Sandy Hook files. All we can hope for is that the conspiracy theorists while grasping at any straw to vindicate their fake stories will consider the negative emotional impact on the families involved. Sadly I don't hold out much hope for their integrity or kindness as they are hell bent on creating a fake universe from alternative facts with no regard for the real lives they ruin. 

Myself I have no intention of watching anything about the Vegas massacre, until the official report is released because doing so muddies the facts. "

You certainly have a lot of trust of people with what I would call quite dubious motives and reporting accuracy problems. More so than I , and many others would. Does that make your world view right? No. Does it make mine right ? I'll take my chances, and say yes.
There seems to be an awful lot of "crazy conspiracy theorists"out there with not much to gain other than being called crazy....Often times risking their very livelihoods and lves. In the sandy hook case, the name Wolfgang Halbig comes to mind. Do you know of any victim's families suffering? I don't. I HAVE heard of many of them being paid large sums of hush money, and the "victim" list is quite shaky and unsubstantiated. Not to mention that the school in sandy hook was shut down at least a year before the "shooting", but just call me crazy. I can take it



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RE: Help end this brutal dictatorship
Reply on October 31, 2017 06:26 PM
PS. Gloria, a shotgun would probably give your aerator more bang for the buck.lol


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RE: Help end this brutal dictatorship
Reply on October 31, 2017 06:42 PM
Here'sk an excerpt from an article debunking Mr. Halbig's "theories" one by one. He sounds just like you, Deck. I'm sure you take that as a compliment. :))

Feb 2017
FACT-CHECKING MORE OF WOLFGANG HALBIG?S ABSOLUTE NONSENSE
by Shill Murray ⋅ 35 Comments
Despite having been debunked, discredited, and publicly humiliated so many times that those of us without an advanced degree in mathematics have lost count, bloated carny Wolfgang Halbig is somehow still out there (as opposed to locked up in a loony bin somewhere), doing his thing, shamelessly exploiting the slaughter of twenty small children and seven adults in a sad and fruitless attempt to be finally recognized as someone important (oh, and of course raise over $100,000 in the process).

One of Wolf?s favorite methods of disseminating his barely-literate and unhinged gobbledygook is an e-mail list that he?s compiled using the (unsolicited) e-mail addresses of anyone who has ever contacted him. I know this because I inexplicably found myself included in the list after asking him ? sometimes politely and other times not so much ? for my $1,000. So I now have the extreme privilege of witnessing his slide into what I have to assume is dementia first-hand. And while Wolfgang spam is one of the last things I want to see upon opening my inbox, it does allow me to debunk his bullshit that much faster. Which ? wouldn?t you know it ? brings us to today.

Since Friday, an apparently unsupervised Halbig has managed to fire off an impressive eleven e-mails, four of which were sent on Monday alone. But while much of the material is completely unintelligible, I somehow managed to decipher the following two claims:

To read the rest of the article click HERE if you dare.



   
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