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giraffmang
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New Year... same old s***

   Thread Started January 4 at 8:31PM


New Year and here we go again...

Quick questions-

What's better?

1) Bland reviews that say nothing...
2) Reviews expressing an opinion on topic / theme with no actual critique...
3) Smoke up your arse...

What's worse?

1) Reviews giving false information...
2) People believing that poor grammar and errors are a matter of style...
3) People believing the smoke that is blown up their arses...

Or -

Does anyone actually care?


Samantha Tonks
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RE: New Year... same old s***

Reply on May 3, 2017 07:00 AM
I am brand new to FanStory today and was so thrilled to receive five and even six star ratings with my very first post. Then I took a look around and realised that EVERYTHING gets at least five stars. Sigh. I still found the feedback helpful, so I will just disregard the star ratings to a certain extent. Seems a shame when we could have such a constructive system going! I suppose it is a win to be getting feedback at all, so as long as I know those stars are not quite as shiny as they seem, I can still get a lot from the site. Love some of the competition concepts!

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RE: New Year... same old s***
Reply on May 3, 2017 01:04 PM
Samantha, after a while you will learn which reviewers give honest critiques. Be sure to nominate them for consideration to become reviewer of the month. If enough people did that, things might change because reviewer of the month receives $100 from the site.


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RE: New Year... same old s***
Reply on May 3, 2017 01:21 PM << Modifed May 3 at 1:22PM >>
It took me a while when I first joined to tell the difference between fluff and helpful reviews. The first "helpful" one I received was so brutal it almost made me quit.

I appreciate an honest critique. That's why I joined.

Another question: What do you do when there's nothing to say? I find it hard sometimes to come up with something.


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RE: New Year... same old s***
Reply on May 4, 2017 11:23 AM
For some reason, this thread is not loading every time I try to open it. Can someone PM me the text so I can read it, please?


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RE: New Year... same old s***
Reply on May 4, 2017 11:42 PM
I wonder if anyone else is having trouble loading this thread? It does not load the text or the full page...


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RE: New Year... same old s***
Reply on May 5, 2017 09:33 AM
Ah, finally I deduced the issue--I had been looking at this via the CLASSIC site, which is obviously getting glitchy. Logging in with the new site, this thread loads perfectly.

Good post, G. You're voicing a problem that has persisted through the years and continues to irk those who have come here for the purpose of improving in the writing craft. Your title reveals that you're aware it is a persistent issue--and not likely to change--but it is worthwhile to voice it periodically, perhaps.

The site has changed so much since the way it was when I first came here.

Fanstory it is now a delightful place for those who just want to share thier writing and connect with others. However, it is no longer a place that I'd recommend for people who are serious about honing thier craft with the purpose of professional publication. For example, I never refer my editing clients here.

While there are, at present, enough people still active who do value and offer constructive critique to make it worthwhile for those who joined the site with that in mind, they are the minority. For newcomers, it takes time to find them. Those of us who have been here awhile already have the connections that make it worthwhile to stay. But I've noticed quite a few newbies leaving, lately.

Nor makes a good point that supporting those who do take the time to review in-depth is a good thing to do. There is not much support for reviewing on this site from the administration. For example, we've asked numerous times that they put a tutorial link for reviewing on the front page, but they only say 'we'll think about it'.

Also, I've noticed that quite a few of the people who used to award thumbs have either forgotten about it or decided it wasn't important to do. And many of the newer members may not know the option exists. It's often happened that I'll receive a PM with profuse thanks for a review--or replies filed with gratitude and kind words of thanks--but no thumb.



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RE: New Year... same old s***
Reply on May 8, 2017 03:45 AM
Thanks, guys, I will take all of this on board. I can only scrape enough time together to get on here every few days, but will try to be a good citizen and put together some useful reviews - and seek out those who give them too. Thanks again, I have so few writing friends. Sniff. ;)


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RE: New Year... same old s***
Reply on May 10, 2017 10:02 AM
I'm unable to open this thread in classic site, so will no longer be active in forums. I do not like the new site at all. I just heard from Tom that he wants everyone to shift to the new site and many things are no longer supported on the old one. So, now, I take a bow and move forward with other things...will visit FS periodically...but not the reviewing forum any longer...farewell!


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RE: New Year... same old s***
Reply on May 12, 2017 12:35 PM
The ones that give me the pip are the ones who simply tell me what my chapter was about. Even worse are those who paste a large chunk of my text and then say "Great work" under it.
On the plus side, I've had some good reviews lately telling me what they liked and why, and even some who said mine was a genre they don't care for but they still loved this piece. So--not all doom.


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RE: New Year... same old s***
Reply on May 12, 2017 01:43 PM
Unfortunately it seems to be the norm now to either give a fluff review and 5 or 6 stars, or low ratings with personal opinions on why the reviewer dislikes the topic.

When I first joined I was thrilled to get the 4 star reviews from folks like RD, or Norma, or others, Why? because they gave absolute spot on corrections. More recently Gman arrived and is another whose reviews I respect.

I have not been on the site for a while, but am shocked at the quality of some of the reviews I have seen. They are not even fluff reviews, which at least are pleasant, but the ones I read have been low ratings and some with downright nasty remarks.

After reading the threads here I now notice that one of our most respected reviewers is leaving. This leaves just a handful of honest and fine reviewers. And as RD said, those who do give honest and good reviews are not recognized.

I fear unless things change for the better soon, most of the old members will leave, and no-one will get the thing most of us joined for. 'A way to hone our skills, through sharing our work and learning from those who have more experience than we do.'

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